SaintRichmond

You mean after one of the Top Four buy him ??? Within hours ?

He's not the same without Beavis

or "One Step Beyond "

I'm not criticising Saints But if a Club, any Club could offer Euro Football NOW, the player would opt for that And if a player, any player received such info from any Club, that, in my book is "Tapping up" Please don't say that you think this never happens. Buttner couldn't wait to get here .............. but he aint here is he ?? The same thing COULD happen to Ramirez Man U did their deal QUICKLY, that's the key In future, we MUST get our man quickly, before other vultures hone in on the carcass of failed negotiations

Buttner himself has said that Man U expressed an interest one month ago That was about the time that Saints were expected to complete the deal, after the "mysterious" third party involvement Don't you at least smell a tiny rat ??

Just my honest OPINION (Something which you used to be able to have on this site) I suppose you believe players DON'T get tapped up then ??

The most likely outcome "Tapped up", just as Buttner was

We are told the player wants to come to us We are told that the transfer fee has been agreed We are told the stumbling block is the method of payment (Bologna wanting more up front and quicker payment of the balance than is the accepted norm ) Question :- How many transfers have Failed because of the "method of payment" ??

Any bets on which of the Top Four Ramirez will end up at ??

I suppose that now, when Man U get Buttner on a five year deal, it is beyond the grasp of many to even consider that THEY scuppered Saints nailed on negotiations to get the self same player who ranted on about how much he wanted to join us. Scullduggery ?? Yes IMHO, and one of the best illustrations that to get deals done, playing things straight is mainly a waste of time

Do they specialise in Uraguayan cuisine as well ??

Buttner said that as well, but changed his mind pretty quick when Man U came calling

Glad you see it that way. It's been my take on it for a while Cortese tries to play it straight, but there aint no such thing in the murkey world of transfer negotiations Now if 'Arry Boy had been in on it, we'd have had Buttner and Ramirez long ago Like it or not, if we want to STAY in the Prem, we MUST get street wise to the way all other Prem Clubs operate I'm not saying it's right, but it's certainly the way it is, not just for Football, but in most other aspects of Big Business negotiations

"Star" names want Clubs who are in a Euro Cup Competition .......... Saints are not in one So, back to CCC, League 1 and 2 "hopefuls"

And now, stage left, enter any of the Top Four..... ..... to conclude negotiations Cortese may have Principals, but, unfortunately, Football has very few

They disappeared in 2005 He sent them off in a bag, and got a cheque back for £274.56p

Your First biggest fear must be that we fail to sign ANY surely It seems we do all the hard graft, bring them into the media spotlight, then the Top Four come in and pinch them

Buttner... " Man U expressed an interest one month ago" Wow, what a coincidence that was. I expect they "expressed" their interest to his Dad

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and mine is that he WON'T be signing for us. I'd like him too, but IMHO he won't So, that makes me the most depressing negative person on here does it Let's wait and see eh ???

Far from it, ..... but I certainly don't accept all the media hype touted around like some, including yourself, obviously do Football is a Business, and if other Clubs can "outdo" other Clubs, that is exactly what they will do Come back again after we end up missing out on all of our targets, and we can discuss Even Nigel has had to move the "signings" Goalposts back, nearly every time he has a P.C

No more than you for believing everything, and not for considering alternative scenarios

And I bet you believe that Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK, don't you ?? ( The REAL stories are normally BETWEEN the lines )

Well, perhaps when he DOESN'T sign for us, you'll get the general drift I still reckon that, behind the scenes, Man U made it clear to him and his agent, that THEy wanted him