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Rupert Lowe's vision has failed .......... " Should have gone to Specsavers "

Be fair guys ..... Mandaric had a bit of bad luck He appointed Ian Hollowhead

Opening up at the Sports pages, I was greeted with the headline .... " Crouch tips the balance and Lowe steps down "........... I broke the UK High jump record from a standing position before I realised it was an Historical article .......... Memo to the Echo ........ CAN YOU MAKE IT COME TRUE AGAIN PLEASE ????

Cue Mr Lowe .... cue Barclays ...... cue the ex Manager of RBS ....... ... a Rational well thought out Business Type Plan of action required please ....... but please don't mention the words "Climb Down" eh ??? Rupert Lowe still trying to keep the SS Sieve afloat ..........

A I really do not understand B I really am that thick not to understand you Over 50 years of watching the Saints, and I still don't know anything which allows me to talk about what constitutes success and failure as regards a Football Team

OK, I think I now understand As you point out, Plan B, was to LOAN out players to other CCC Teams, so that they could score GOALS ....... something that the players left at St Mary's cannot do Yes, I get it now I was mistakenly under the impression that now, when the situation on the field of play is getting worse by the week, that Mr Lowe would RECALL the Loaned out players, so that they could score the GOALS for US, and help us climb away from Relegation Silly me ... wrong again ....... but you are right ...... Boy, that is some Plan B Perhaps you could enlighten me as to what Plans A and C are ?????

What the hell are you on about ???????? "you wish to create Admin and Mod attention seeking "poor me" posts" ... what are you talking about ??? FFS If you don't like "personnal" comments, don't throw them at me then You "stand by your point" .. ???? Good, because I have not got a clue as to what that is or was And you STILL havn't come back with one constructive criticism/ counter argument re what I said of Lowe's "climb down" OK, my turn .... I will make it simple for you ........ I don't mind being criticised, or people not agreeing with me, but, most times people come back with alternative points of view ....... that is called Democracy/ Freedom of speech All you have done is slag me off, which does NOT add to any debate

A climbdown would be a situation where you suddenly had to go against everything you had previously put in place. A few things that Mr Lowe did upon his return:- Insisted in going for youth Insisted in bringing in Poortvliet & Wotte Insisted in adopting the Total Football concept Insisted in selling/loaning all experienced players As at now, we have Experienced players coming back into the Team As at now, Poortvliet (Mr Lowe's appointed man ) has gone As at now, we do not try to play Total Football As at now, players like Saga and Skacel ( shunned by Mr Lowe ) are back in the Squad Other than that, no other player has returned, and most are scoring goals for OUR opponents You define Plan B as Mr Lowe loaning out our Top players to satisfy the Bank. So, you must therefore logically agree that Mr Lowe will not recall those players from their loans, because that would NOT satisfy the Bank I was "denied a firesale " as you put it, mainly because of market trends, most pundits would agree on that. It is not a sellers market, and Mr Lowe could not attract the sort of Xfer fees he was looking for. ( thankfully) Lowe will never admit it, but a vast number of Football People would class that recent events at St Mary's constitute as a Climb Down Asregards me seeking help fom a Key Stage Two teacher, I will repectfully decline ............. as I am sure she spend most of her time trying to teach you

Read this SLOWLY ............. all you are doing is slagging me off ....... You are NOT answering my points Your "counter argument" that it is just my opinion is NOT a Counter Argument I suggest you find out what Big words like "counter" and "argument" before Mummy brings in your Rusks

I was both amazed, and very pleased that Surman & Lallana were not sold Yes, my Crystal Ball needs fine tuning, mainly to take into effect that, in the economic downturn, even Mr Lowe cannot command big fees for CCC players It is ironic, that if Lowe shifts afew more out on loan, we will have a Stronger Team out on loan, than we have left at St Mary's Yet more astute Business sense from the Football Genious that is Lowe

And your counter arguments to my points are ....... ????????

"Still MAINLY a youth Team" ...... so, there ARE older players too ??? "Loaned out players" ... of which, how many have been recalled, after scoring goals that could impact on OUR survival ?? "no proof of sacking" ...... OK, PROVE to me ( and thousands of others) that he meekly "walked" just after being in charge of a match "Isnt it refreshing to have a Board with a plan B " ....... sorry mate, I've obviously missed the last six months ... WHAT PLAN B IS THAT THEN .... ..... do you mean the reversal of the Total youth policy, do you mean the scrapping of the Total Football concept, do you mean the sacking of ONE of the Dynamic Dutch Coaches, do you mean getting Saga back, do you mean putting Skacel back in the squad .......... ??? ...... A lot of people, other than me, would say that comes under the heading of a CLIMB DOWN BY LOWE .... Now, run back and tell him, there's a good boy

The crux of your post being ... "In the days before Lowe " THAT says it all

A bit like when Lawrie Mac told Mark Wright he could rot in the third Team as a punishment

I don't really know ...... I mean, Lowe insisted that we play with Youth, adopted a Dutch Masters "Total Football" concept, appointed Edam & Gouda, sold or loaned out any player that could score a goal .......... ....... Then, he SACKED Poortvliet ( you don't really believed he quit do you), and slowly but surely, players with EXPERIENCE are now being picked So, the return of Skacel in the Squad .......... CLIMBDOWN FOR LOWE ???? ....... whatever makes you think that ???? Unfortunately, SIX MONTHS too late

Point of order ......... "WE" didn't let him go ..... LOWE did, because A) he didn't hire him in the first place, and B) Pearson, not being a "Yes Man", would have stood up to Lowe Mandaric is a tough cookie, but he appointed someone he thought would do a good job for him ....... AND LET HIM DO IT HIS WAY End of story

Why is everyone assuming Saints will get anyone IN I expect Lowe to ship a few OUT on loan

BUT HE WOULD BE WRONG !!!!!!!!! We came to the Saints v Man Utd match, because it had been a LONG TIME since we have had the chance to see Top Quality Football The reason we are NOT seeing Top Quality Football every home match is because of Lowe's Policy's in the past HIS actions Relegated us from the Prem, and HIS actions will shortly relegate us to Div 1 In all the time that Lowe has been associated with SFC, NOT ONCE has he shouldered the blame for anything Ten plus Managers ..... not his fault Lack of Funds to avoid Relegation from the Prem ..... not his fault His Youth Policy this season that has failed .... not his fault Dutch Total Football by Two Dutch unknowns which failed ....... not his fault A massive drop in attendances .....not his fault etc etc The man is an egotistical IDIOT, leading us to oblivion, partly out of revenge

IMHO, going into Admin will GUARENTEE Lowe coming back in an even stronger position All part of his Master Plan of coming back Laugh if you will, but just wait and see

I firmly believe that Lowe WOULD buy up the ashes, once Saints go into admin I firmly believe that that has been part of his Grand Plan all along Wait and see before you all shout me down

You have more or less answered your own question Saints COULD AND SHOULD have been sold years ago, but once the very dubious "Reverse Takeover" happened, the die was cast History speaks for itself Lowe has NEVER gone after Investment for Saints. He is Chairman of a PLC, NOT a Football Team, he has said so himself Any Major Investment into ANY Club, normally means a change in who ends up running the Club, ie the INVESTOR wants "hands on " his Investment So, any threat to Lowe's control has been, and will continue to be, resisted by him. In other words, no change, and now that he is back in power, he will do absolutely everything not to be ousted again. His previous demise hurt his ego big time, so he has score to settle, at the expense of the TEAM ON THE PITCH

You are of course assuming he has nuts to kick ........ they disappeared long ago, as did ALL Male PLC Shareholders ( Most likely, the only Football Match he can attend, bearing in mind he is a wanted man at St Mary's )

That really is VERY funny ......... Lowe will NEVER go voluntarily, he is in NO WAY answerable to his "Customers" ( ie US )........ so, unless a Miracle happens ( If any of the Major Shareholders look between their legs and discover that they DO have balls ) ...... Saints will sink even lower and lower Incidently, I did post at the time of his earlier removal as Chairman, that as long as he still had shares, he WOULD be back. At the time I was shouted down on here, but, ..... just look at him now Perhaps the PLC Shareholders think that they will get a better dividend return once we are in Division One ???

The way that Lowe & Co got the Shares from lifelong Saints Shareholders stank to high heaven, even the Police said it was Morally questionable As I've said, something BIG is going on under the surface, ie a Big Property deal ?? .... it has nothing to do with Saints Football Club

If that is the case ...WHY and HOW does Lowe Reign Supreme at St Mary's Apart from Nigel Pearson, is their no one else with anything resembling BALLS Or are they all like LEMMINGS waiting for Lowe to direct them over the Cliff ???