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Yes. It would be a bit like the signing of Ricky Lambert when we were in League 1.

Were we caught 3 times? I thought that we volunteered the Oxford and Ipswich events.

From the Barmy Army song book "We saw you cry on the telly" At Hellberg

Oxford's training ground is completely open and is visible from the main road.

I am sure that Clifford Chance have not been employed to let the FA fuck us up. If they try to punish us further they will see us in court.

A good reading of the situation. Yesterday's response and Dragan's statement are clearly giving notice to the FA that we will fight any attempt to impose bans on individuals. Yes we did wrong. We have been severely punished. That is enough. If there is any further punishment it will become messy. We will take you to court to contest the composition of the "independent" panel and the EFL's non adherence to their own timescales. Exactly. It smells fishy and we will fight it if necessay.

You missed out the joys of shitting in a bucket.

Bloody hell. Just when I thought we had won some silver. Source???

Ipswich clearly trained there for the evening fixture. I doubt that other visiting teams would have time to go there for a 3pm kickoff.

Which Championship teams have training facilities which are open to the public and wouldn't require trespassing in order to spy? Boro clearly do and I know that Oxford do. How many others are there?

If, like me, you have lost a spouse, you understand how important sport really is in life. Nevertheless it does matter and I realise that I am now going through the 5 stages of grief - probably like most other Saints fans. The 5 stages are: Denial Followed by Anger Then Bargaining Depression And finally Acceptance. I finished the Denial phase when the appeal was rejected. Before Tuesday I could not see us being expelled from the play offs. On Wednesday encouraged by the reaction of much of the football world, I hoped that the severity of the punishment would be reduced. Now expulsion is real. At the moment I am stuck in the anger phase. Our sheer ineptitude in not only committing the offence but also in allowing Boro to set the legal and PR agenda is just pissing me off. Seeing Boro playing at Wembley tomorrow will not make me feel any better!! Depression will come I guess when Peretz signs for somebody else , when THB goes back up north and Scienza disappears. I am not looking forward to that stage but hopefully acceptance will be reached by August and the start of the new season. Here's hoping.

So we got 2 points taken off our penalty for cooperating. Without cooperation it would have been 6 points plus play off expulsion. Leicester broke the financial rules for ages, didn't cooperate and got 6 points penalty. Hardly seems fair.

There are also the players returning from loan spells. BBD, Sugawara etc.

We have all heard the case for the prosecution. The defence case has not been presented publicly. Without that accurate predictions are impossible and we are all just guessing.

Sorry Jamie. I have to admit that I would be worried if you had a more optimistic opinion. 😁 You must admit that you normally come over as a glass half empty guy. 😁 We are all different so nothing wrong with that. Fingers crossed that you are wrong . Late addition: After reading Duckie's opinion above... Ditto Lord Duckhunter. 😁