
ThorpG
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We lost the title even though we are in top spot. Wow... Perhaps we are going to be the first team to come top and not be champions.... I am glad that Adkins does not lose hs nerve the way the posters on here do...
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I am not from Guildford...! And I remember scallys trying to pinch bits off of his car. Top win though...
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I am not sure why everyone is so bothered. Would we have preferred it if we had lost and Holloway had been 100% complimentary about the club with Blackpool going into the hat for the 4th round draw? He was ****ed because his team lost. Here's to beating 'better' teams more regularly and getting opposition managers more upset more often.
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Funny thing every one blames Man U for 'devaluing' the FA Cup. I think I am right in saying that Man U have won the cup more than just about any other team in the country suggesting they clearly take it pretty bloody seriously. However, because the FA / Premier League put pressure on them to play in the pointless World Club Championship, now it is entirely their fault the FA Cup is not what it is. I am no apologist for Man U, but I think the FA Cup being less than it once was has far more to do with the amount of money plugged into the Premier League and the expansion of the Champions League, which has simply made for more high profile games, making the FA cup very much 3rd place in the hierarchy of tournements worth winning. For me the FA Cup is great when we do something like we did yesterday, but by the time it gets to the Quarters / Semi Finals it loses something as the romantic side of the cup disappears once the big four or five teams mobilise their first team players and not their reserve teams.
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My daughter is nearly 2. I reckon I will take her when she is 4 or 5. Maybe her first Saints game will be in the Premier League...
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Lots of people here giving Harding a good score for his performance yet critical of Richardson. This seems a bit odd to me as in the first 20 minutes or so it was on Harding's side that Exeter put us under pressure. Also saw Lallana have to put the in the last tackle in the left back position a few times giving away corners, with Harding way out of position. Richardson by contrast got caught out less in defense (which is when all said and done the main job of a defender) and appeared to give more going forward, albeit some of his crosses were way over hit. Harding gave one of the weaker performances for the team today imo. Lallana head and shoulders above everyone on the pitch, touch and technique simply belong to a higher league. Lambert very effective in joining up the play while Guly played really well. Chamberlain OK, at times effective, at times ineffectual, but hey he is 17 and has only played a handful of games. Chaplow is doing the engine role perfectly, and again showed the dynamism we missed early on in the season. 27 chances. 4 goals. Can do better, but nice to be able to win 4-1 and 4-0 and still have areas of improvement. COYR!
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'Will cost us automatic promotion' - really? Most of these comments are so knee jerk. According to the stats we had 19 chances with 9 shots on target - to score just one of these is unusual, it was just a bad day. Performance was OK, nothing special, but not terrible either against a team packing defense and midfield. Most times we play like that we will win comfortably. As the team play more games they will get more ryhtmn, match sharpness etc... It is likely we will bring in 1 - 2 players over the next few days, as Pardew has hinted at, which will just create that bit more competition for places which we are maybe missing at the moment, and providing that one of these players is a quicker, attacking player a la Antonion or Waigo then we will have the bit of variety that we are currently missing in tight games like yesterday. If we had won two games out of two people would be saying 'calm down it is 46 games, a marathon not a sprint' yet somehow when we don't win the first two it is a disaster and you would think our title challenge was over. Things are never as bad or as great as they seem and by the time we get to the business end of the season I am sure we will be in the mix. You can't win a title in August and you can't lose one either.
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I am all for positivity and I do think we will get back to the Premier League in time if Liebherr and Cortese are genuinely here for the long term (and there is no reason yet to think they are not). However all this talk of 45,000 - 50,000 seater stadiums looks a bit far fetched. We have got a good support and this season has shown it but do people here really believe we could routinely exceed even 40,000 unless we were playing Man U, Arsenal etc...? Our support could maybe be as high as Sunderland at a push, but I can still see us playing in the Premier League against the likes of Fulham, Bolton etc... just touching 30,000 at best. On that basis, how could the investment in increasing attendance be justified - it would be at a massive cost with little hope of a return on investment. I will settle for being back in the Premier League battling it out with the big boys to get in the top half and having 32,000 sell outs for most games. Compared with where we are now, that sounds like the promised land to me...
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Frustrating decision from the ref as the other guy (Gleeson?) was hardly blameless, but if you have a ref who has been poor all game, why give him the chance to make another poor decision, with a tame shove. Not clever. Also hated seeing Schneiderlin waving imaginary yello card at the linesman in the 1st half - he should get an instant yellow card himself for this.
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Why, so fans of another club can go through the same turmoil we have to? I would have thought our current predicament would have meant we might become a bit more sympathetic of other fans who see their club's future threatened. Clearly I got that wrong...
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I am not sure that is true - for a while under Strachan we were virtually unbeatable and it was a fortress. The stadium is fine, Lowe just forgot to put any money into a decent management setup and a decent playinng squad to go with it. Too busy trying out continental structures, Woodward etc...
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Gillett, Thompson and Gobern too expensive to keep or will want to leave. Really? Two of them have not done anything yet, while Gillett is hardly going to have Championship clubs banging at the door, albeit he improved in the last third of the season before getting injured. I agree with the others but would think keeping these three would not prove difficult.
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I am not surprise people are obsessed, I still have a horrible feeling that Lowe will somehow return in some capacity even though logically it is unlikely. Bearing in mind the horrendous downward spiral the club has been on and the feeling that there is always something worse coming around the corner, it would be a bit odd if people weren't fearing the return of Mr Lowe. He has done it once before after all... When is all said and done Lowe has been involved in the club for 10 years or more so it is not irrational to think he might try to become involved again, is it?
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Barclays and Aviva: Something we can all agree with Rupert Lowe on
ThorpG replied to trousers's topic in The Saints
Ridiculous. How can Lowe blame the banks? Thats like a burglar blaming the police for not stopping him. If the club were in anyway financially viable the banks would not have gone down this route, what has happened is purely a result of financial mismanagement by Lowe et al... Lowe's parting salvo at Barclays smacks of a man who cannot even acknowledge the truth when it is staring him in the face and that attitude would be one that has characterised his 10+ years at the club. -
What are Saints players current transfer values
ThorpG replied to The Fat Controller's topic in The Saints
It can't be 'complete rubbish' as clearly Surman and Lallana have attracted some Premiership interest. That does not apply to any of our other players. Clearly someone must think that they would be able to cut it at Premiership level. I am not saying they are great players merely that they may be able to do a job at a lower half Premiership team. Apparent interest from Fulham in Lallana suggests I am not the only one. As I stated I would not pay £1.5m for the pair of them. -
Very hard on a lot of these young players - by throwing them in the deep end to such an extent, rather than giving them the opportunity to cut it in the Championship, they have been given the opportunity to fail. How many young players have succeded in English football coming through into a team of other young players, with no 'wise, old heads' to help them settle in? I be there aren't many. Bridge, Walcott, Beattie etc... all had the opportunity to join an experienced side which could 'carry' one or two young players until they settled in. This season's kids have just been lambs to the slaughter.
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What are Saints players current transfer values
ThorpG replied to The Fat Controller's topic in The Saints
I think Lallana and Surman would fetch some money - they are both players who can pass a ball and have a good touch but struggle with the 'rough and ready' nature of Championship football. Perversely, in the Premiership where midfielders do get a bit more time on the ball, they may do OK at a lower-half club such as Stoke, Wolves etc... I don't think they are worth more than £1.5m between them and with our parlous finances no doubt we would take any offer, but they may go for more than some people on this website would think. Conversely players like Davis and McGoldrick (who have been about our best players this season in the circumstances) would probably bring in very little. There are plenty of average Championshop strikers who would never cut it in the Premier League, while Davis' track record means he would only go to another Championship club at best, despite being comfortably our best player and the only reason why we still even have a chance of staying up. The rest of the squad really would fetch very little, particularly as a lot of them are out of contract anyway. -
Still not sure Fulham would be too clever spending £1m+ for him. He would be a squad player at best.
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Key thing today was that he was more direct - when he got the ball he looked to head towards goal, run at people and get into the penalty area. The same goes for McGoldrick. When we have done well under Wotte, it has by beinng more aggressive and getting the ball and players into the box more than under the previous 'manager'. Don't know why we did not take this approach against Charlton, we sat back far more and were slower in our build up and it cost us three points. More of the same at Wednesday please.
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Everyone on here is obsessed with people going / not going. Its like this - I go to every home game because I want to and can afford to (although this season has tested the faith admittedly). Some other people go every game, some people don't go because it is too expensive in hard times, others don't go because they think it is a crap day out, others don't go because we are not in the Premiership. All of these people are entitled to do what they want - these are adults who can make rational decisions with what to do with their own money. So why is everyone on here so pompous if they go to games regularly? We are all Saints who care about the club in our own way. Today was a good crowd, good atmosphere, good win - be happy.
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Seems a bit churlish to moan about being positive. Another few weeks of the form we showed under Poortvliet and we would have been all but doomed, at least we are now fighting for our lives with a chance of staying up. I don't think anyone thinks we are now a great team, but at least there is hope...
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Was a clear dive by Saganowski, never a penalty. He should have been booked for diving, to be honest.
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In a word, Yes. The administrators would need to come to arrangements with all creditors with regards to any moey owed by the club- we would not be regarded as creditors as we are not technically 'owed' any money by the club.