PaulSaint

One more "out of work" manager that I looked up: Roy Keane Ireland 42% Imagine him & Lowe having an argument!

Easy to get in, up the back of the jumper or under that bit of cardboard that sits at the bottom of a sports bag?

Sorry, the caretakers werent listed on the sites I visited. Here's some more for comparison: Ian Branfoot English 28% Ian Dowie English 42% Billy Davies Scotland 39% José Mourinho Portugal 68% Alex Ferguson Scotland 56% Micky Adams England 37% Oh and I take your points that other factors need to be born in mind!

This one was posted by Staplewooder on the 606 site: Four more & we'll ask the mods for a poll!

I got hold of a list of all Saints Manager to date. This bit below is purely the managers we've had under Lowe together with their win percentages & origins. What I found interesting was: Souness was our first ever non English Manager (20 english in a row until then) Jan was in fact our first ever non British Manager What a good record Burley had ! Jan is higher than Nigel but worse than Redknapp who took us down Why o why did I fight against Hoddle coming back? 3 of the top 4 are Scots! The best and worst are both English. Graeme Souness (1996–1997) Scotland 29% Dave Jones (1997–2000) England 32% Glenn Hoddle (2000–2001) England 42% Stuart Gray (2001) England 31% Gordon Strachan (2001–2004) Scotland 35% Paul Sturrock (2004) Scotland 38% Steve Wigley (2004) England 14% Harry Redknapp (2004–2005) England 26% George Burley (2005–2008 ) Scotland 41% Nigel Pearson (2008 ) England 21% Jan Poortvliet (2008–present) Holland 25% Sorry if theres any mistakes, stats from web & percentages from windows calculator.

Peter Reid played eight games in 1993 (looked brill), then we sacked Branfoot & he left - Boo!

I'd like to know when the approach was made?

Lowes Punishment Remove the Idiots Peenis then Redface In Pain

All that happened on Saturday but according to "BBC South Today" neither Lowe, Wilde or any members of the board were available for comment! Wonder if they are too busy discussing ways to save the club?

Was Lowe in charge when we commisioned the first statue?

OK then we have idea #5, tackle the plc with Ron's plan, hold the funeral to gain valuable publicity and boycott the game when we are next on TV and meet up at Central Hall.

This is Weston Saints plan to remove Lowe (thanks for the heads up saint1977):

Just for info, this advice on "saving your club" was written by Brighton Fans & can be found on their brilliant website set up to help others in a similar predicament (well done lads, one of the most unselfish things I have ever seen in Football). http://www.clubsincrisis.com/advice.asp Bridgetoofar I think we will need the full list of 10-12 before they can create the poll?

Cheers SITH! If we win the poll I'll be in touch!

I was just reading about the first ever "Fans United Day" on the Brighton Forums: http://northstandchat.com/archive/index.php/t-13122.html Maybe this could be the third idea? It could even be combined with the first idea (Funeral March) e.g. fans from all around the UK are invited to pay their respects to SFC, were you a fan of Matt Le Tissier, did you enjoy it when we beat Man U 6-1 or Liverpool 4-2. Afterwards you are all invited inside for drinks and a sing song?

Cheers FHS If we get the go ahead from the poll the you can do the following: Contacting Meridian & BBC TV Contacting BBC Radio, Talk Sport, etc I'll talk to the Echo and design some flyers. Any more volunteers?

Lowe already has a fizzing grenade in his office, closing the Northam would be like piling barrels of TNT, crates of flour & drums of fertiliser around it to shield him from the blast? :cool:

I like it too Wes, it will fall down though if the next time we are shown on TV is the last game against Notts Forest to stay up (eek)?

Wes Tender The original point of this thread was to list each protest idea, provide a poll & pick one democratically. So lets make CB Fry's idea number 2. Like my funeral idea it needs prodding & poking to see if it stands up. Any others?

surrey1saint Were you not there on saturday? Fans fighting all around us, two thirds calling for lowe to go, no fight after the first 20 minutes, awful tactics, Armstrong thrown out, the Echo staff told to move, pitch invasions, fans arguing with Poortvliet, losing 2 soft goals against the team below us, 400 outside reception - When do you think it is needed then!

I like this, it allows us to show within the ground that we are planning to attend the funeral or have just been to it.

I really would prefer the idea to go up against others and be voted on. If it wins however I think it best we unite and each volunteer for small tasks. Here are some that I have thought of: Liaising with the Echo (I am happy to take this as I have a contact in the sports department) Producing a flyer that can be put in shop windows & pubs (again happy to take this one) Sorry, I am on jury service this week (not needed until tomorrow) and so cant do loads? Contacting Meridian & BBC TV Contacting BBC Radio Contacting BBC TV Trying to get in contact with celebrity supporters (Craig David, Holly Valance, Lucy Pinder, David Frost, Mike Osman, etc) Making the coffin (i'm thinking maybe a light plywood frame, thick cardboard sides?) Decorating the coffin Printing some flyers (I can email them) and distributing them around Southampton? Anyone want to lead the funeral with a bell and appropiate hat? Anyone a good speaker want to "say some words" outside reception? Any others?

Here's some info I found about the Portsmouth Protest (11 years ago): "Again,we went to a game not knowing if it would our last.This time it was Huddersfield at home and fans marched a coffin up Frogmore Road before kick-off to protest about the threatened death of PFC. Ten minutes of silence, by way of a further protest,was blown away by another Claridge goal. Another vital 1-0 win was earned and the administrators kept things going until a certain Mr Mandaric appeared from nowhere to lead us into a brave new world." The Interesting point for me was that they were already under administration by the time of the protests!

"This is so hard to pull off that it simply cannot" I really dont think it is. I have googled both cardboard eco-coffins (expensive) and fake halloween coffins that are joined together with velcro (cheapish). All it takes is some spraypaint and somebody artisitic to make it look great. Then we simply turn up in funeral attire & sing our effing hearts out? Anyway Mods, you OK for it to be posted as idea one on a poll?

I am a Season Ticket Holder and Saints fan of 35 years. I joined in with the mid nineties Branfoot Protests and I stood tall at the Ipswich Game in 2006 when we ousted Lowe the first time, I will also do whatever it takes this time. I generally believe that it's stability and consistency that breed success, the only consistency these two have brought us however is a losing mentality when we play at St Marys! We are not asking for a Man City like Sheikh, all we want is a unifying Chairman and a competent Manager who knows the Championship? As I see it though we have a problem, as concerned supporters we are simply too disjointed. I have visited four different Saints Forums plus BBC 606 & the Echo sports pages, I must have counted 25 different "Dads Army Schemes" aimed at protesting against the board. Some want to use Facebook, some invading the pitch, emails to Wilde, letters to Askham, writing to the Echo, emailing the national newspapers, surrounding Lowes farm, etc, etc. These scattergun ideas are fine but we need a single, well supported, focused idea? I dont see a load of fragmented and miniscule campaigns achieving anything! What we need is less of a Dads Army approach and one thats more like the "Allied Expeditionary Force" (removed Hitler from Europe), we must rally around a single idea (like they did with D-Day) and put all of our energies into it without arguments! I would like to propose the following plan for selecting this suitable strategy: Selection This is clearly the biggest saints forum there is, its for that reason alone that I reckon we use it solely to "decide on" and then "carry out" a single, organised and effective protest to rid the club of these two ASAP! The other forums will of course discuss the plans but it should be here that the idea be decided on (democratically of course). How Via a single poll that details say ten to 12 ideas (list them in the same format used below) and a single sticky discussion thread to dissect them, we can then discuss and choose a single goal, organise it well & then carry it off. If technically possible could these be made subscription free? Its been made clear to me this weekend that Southampton supporters are united in what they don't like (Lowe & the Dutch Experiment) but there is nothing we can all focus and contribute to, well here's one to get us started with: Idea Number One - The SFC Funeral, the club died on saturday, let us have some closure. We meet around 2.15 at the Southampton side of the Itchen Bridge (as in the song) or say at the Railway Station. Everyone is dressed in black or dark colours. Very slowly singing OWTS and steadily marching we follow a 6 foot long, symbolic black coffin to be left for M Wilde at Reception. Lowe wont resign, he's far too pig headed for that, we need to target Mr Wilde to remove him again. The people following the coffin carry white A4/A3 paper banners with black writing (easy to do at home, work, school, etc), mine simply reads "Lowe & Jan staying = unrest & relegation, Lowe & Jan going = we have a chance!). Actually placed inside the coffin are pictures and articles representing the life of Southampton FC that we will have put in en route. I am putting in a picture of the Saints Fans at Cardiff, somebody else could bring a picture of Le Tissier scoring against Arsenal, Bobby in 76, etc. On the top of the coffin it simply reads SFC R.I.P 1885 - January 2009. All local & national newspapers will be informed together with the two local TV Stations. Hopefully concerned ex players can be invited to join us on the march, I'm thinking Benali, Channon, Peach, Armstrong, etc). The police may even decide to hold up the traffic to escort us? All the time the organising is going on we can email our concerns to Mr Wilde, I'm simply telling him that Lowe & Jan have to go in the next month or I am not renewing my ST next year. Here is his email address by the way if you ever want to contact him about Merlin Equities?: wilde@merlionequities.co.uk I reckon we should do this at the next home game. Idea Pluses A huge embarrassment for Lowe and Wilde. Lots of colourful and striking images of the coffin shown in newspapers and on websites. Striking footage of the long and sombre cortege snaking its way to the stadium. This idea would actually generate a lot of sympathetic publicity for our cause - compare this to pitch invasions, blockading Lowes farm, etc? The protest is outside and out of sight of the players. When the game kicks off we will be in our seats again & ready to support the team as we always do. Doesnt hurt our already fragile finances. Slow, dignified and non violent. Even the stayaways can come & join in. Idea Minuses Fans would need to get to Southampton a bit earlier & wear black. We need a coffin - anybody good at woodwork? I think Jan, unlike Lowe, is an honourable man. When he hears about the funeral and see's the pictures he may just resign? Lowe has become plc chairman two times, lets hope Wilde decides to get rid of him twice as well!