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Just an inevitable wait until the mistake that gifts Everton the goals.

Our first choice defence and keeper out there and we can't even stop Stoke.

It's not just about today. It's accumulated frustration from previous winnable games wasted by idiotic tactics. Despite improvement today is still 0 points.

I think in recent years the team has given us very little to shout about. Years of mostly struggles under Ralph including two 9 nils. Two terrible managers to replace him. Even winning promotion was a slog last year as we seemed to do it in the most painful way and were humiliated several times despite. In the end you do become numb to it. Expect disappointment. Struggle to feel positive at being 2 nil up at half time. You cant invest your feelings into something that has let you down over and over again. So you've stopped. However I also think getting older helps context. Sadly perhaps it becomes easier to think "it's just a game".

Depends by how many though. City could easily get 9 or 10 if they wanted.

I'd love to be wrong but that's the issue for me. His recent tactics and subs have actually caused us to lose games we could have got points from. If that keeps going we've got no hope. Needs a new manager to come in and flush out picking of favourites and restart relationships with any out of favour players.

Fraser was great for us last year. But exposed badly at this level. Hes clearly mates with RM which is why he came on instead of the more logical choice. That is another reason why RM needs to go...

Even at 2 nil up they were running through us fairly easily. We are so weak all over the pitch. Lots of games to go but the Derby County fans must be loving it.

How do you go from 2 nil up and holding steady, to losing 3-2..

Coming up to the time of their next goal. Last minute etc

Seems clear that whomever is manager we are way short of the standard required. Another manager could help it be slightly less embarrassing though.

I knew we'd struggle this year but it's definitely worse than I imagined. We simply can't defend. No quality in there.

Clear handball by us there right infront of the ref. He's awful!!

Loving Onuachu, clearly wants to do well and work hard. And looks alright to be fair.

2-2 and surely only going to get worse.

The decisions that have gone against us today do make you wonder.

Seconds after we should have a penalty they get one.

Yep we're all just waiting for the inevitable

We all know how this one goes. Leicester to win 3-2.

Lots of good bits this half, but we're still looking very weak all over the pitch and defensively open.

Couldn't wait to book Dibling

We can't get close to them. We're a bit on the back foot and not working together as a team.

I think we can take some positives from that. Dibling amazing and almost scored a wonder goal. Onuachu was better than expected. We looked decent coming forwards on a few occasions. If we take those good things and keep a settled team. Who knows. Far better than what we saw first half against Bournemouth. Defensive mistake cost the third goal. VAR cost us the second. We could easily have scored 2.

If that is the other way, we get it disallowed.

0-0 at HT I didn't see that coming at all. We've been working hard, throwing bodies in the way etc and even had a shot. Sadly, I think they'll have too much second half. Plenty of options off the bench worth more than our squad put together.