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This sounds good, almost too good to be true. You say you serve alcohol AND food? It's certainly a novel idea. I wish you luck in your venture.

Are you Martin Luther King or Gandhi?

So you're going to ask me a question and then answer it yourself? No one is saying that "the rest of us" don't have rights. Do you not agree that the list that I posted includes some very worthy aims? Or are you not that bothered about protecting "The right to a fair trial and no punishment without law"? Would you rather we get rid of these rights in order to seek justice against one person? You'd forgo all the benefits for all the citizens of the country to exact revenge against one person? I think that would be very short sighted. No system is perfect and pap is exactly right in what he says.

Thanks, that means a lot coming from you. I see you as the big boss of saints web, you're a legend on the internet.

Hi Turkish. It's very sweet of you to follow me around and call me a superstar, but I'm a long way off your standards. One day I also hope to have over 14000 quality posts on a forum like this.

Eh? Fitzhugh Fella said Osman raises lots of money and I pointed out that Savile raised lots of money. What's the issue there? There's a lot of people getting very upset about nothing here.

Nonsense.

It must be draining being so relentlessly negative and miserable. I feel for him. We should save up and send him a nice gift.

Both worked as radio presenters.

It's only November the 14th. Are you sure?

You benefit in a number of ways, but as we live in a democratic country most of the benefits won't necessarily apply to you. However, your bit about only benefitting if you were "accused of committing a crime" is important - what if you were innocent? It's nice to know your rights would be protected. Sometimes, even in this country, the police and the government act in ways which mean citizens are not always treated fairly. Anyway, here is a list of benefits that the HRA provides for you: The right to life – protects your life, by law. The state is required to investigate suspicious deaths and deaths in custody. The prohibition of torture and inhuman treatment – you should never be tortured or treated in an inhuman or degrading way, no matter what the situation. Protection against slavery and forced labour – you should not be treated like a slave or subjected to forced labour. The right to liberty and freedom – you have the right to be free and the state can only imprison you with very good reason – for example, if you are convicted of a crime. The right to a fair trial and no punishment without law - you are innocent until proven guilty. If accused of a crime, you have the right to hear the evidence against you, in a court of law. Respect for privacy and family life and the right to marry – protects against unnecessary surveillance or intrusion into your life. You have the right to marry and raise a family. Freedom of thought, religion and belief – you can believe what you like and practise your religion or beliefs. Free speech and peaceful protest – you have a right to speak freely and join with others peacefully, to express your views. No discrimination – everyone’s rights are equal. You should not be treated unfairly – because, for example, of your gender, race, sexuality, religion or age. Protection of property, the right to an education and the right to free elections – protects against state interference with your possessions; means that no child can be denied an education and that elections must be free and fair That seems like a worthy list and I cannot see why anyone would object to those aims. It may not always work out exactly as we would like, but nothing is perfect and we shouldn't let one or two cock ups diminish the good the act does.

former player (defender) from the 1980s.

like jimmy savile?

someones after a free signed photo.

The more cortese distances himself from the history of the club, the more we see these sorts of conflict. Is this level of speculation any way to treat a former player, England international and star of the greatest war/football film in the history of the world? Lets have a little respect.

Do I have a track suit with my initials on it?

Frimpong runs around like a loon, kicking people. I'm happy to have someone who will out their foot in and work hard, but his an uncontrolled idiocy on the pitch. Maybe once he's matured and learnt the game a little more hell calm down, but right now I think he'd be a liability.

He sounds like a right knob.

I think he sits on his own as everyone hates him and he hates everyone. I think he didn't wear a poppy as he thinks it's good that all those soldiers died and he wishes more of them dead.

Have I read this right? Are you saying you want him to kill people to teach the authorities a lesson?

I don't think we need a keeper. Boruc should come good when he gets fit/sorts his brain out and Gazza seems decent. KD as third choice probably means we have a decent selection. Nigel just needs to decide who his no.1 is and play him consistently, that will make us better.

I have a bad feeling about this game. I think they'll turn it one, inspired by our leaky defence and we'll lose 3-0 or 4-1. I really hope I'm wrong. Wouldn't change the team from this weekend. We just really need to make sure we don't lose this one.

No, come on now. Of course we needed to improve the squad, but you don't do that by spending £9m on two players to act as squad players/back up. We could have actually improved the team with that money. I reckon, with the right scouting, we could have found 3 players capable of playing in the first 11 for that money. I'm completely behind Adkins and the team, but the more I think of how we wasted money, the more cross I get. I have only now stopped shedding tears about spending so much money on Delap all those years ago. This is insanity.

We need the judge to get the stenographer to read back what Turkish said.