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Great Idea - Its just amazing that the first two games after going into admin are two of just four games this season that were marketed to encourage people to come back to football - too little to late!. I'm a ST holder and would happily rip it up and buy again, but I think we do need to look at David Luker'srole in all this - seriousily we have been trotting out ideas all season on this forum and practically doing the blokes job for him. What salary is he on and does anyone know if he is deffering anypart of it?? I'm not proposing a witch hunt but even in admin all we have come up with officially is send a cheque in to the ticket office. Personally there is massive ammounts of good will out there and I like hundreds/thousands more will be happy to donate to Save our Club and pretty much do anything I can without any gaurantees but Blindly sending money to the ticket office without any clear view on the direction we are taking should be viewed with a little bit of caution. The club can raise a lot of money in a short space of time but this money needs to be channeled and used wisely.
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These clubs did n't have someone as utterly detested as RL - Also certainly in Norwich's case the club has remained very strongly family orientated and does n't see fans as "Customers". Also the pricing structure is a large part of why fans have stayed away.
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Derry People pay £600 which gives them the right to buy a fixed rate season ticket for ten years - the season ticket would be £299 per season - regardless of division and would include all league cup and fa cup matches. The £600 would be in the way of membership fee - as when joining a golf club. We would need to sell 25,000 season Membership tickets at £600 each . This would raise £15 000 000 - this money is offered to Norwich Union for settlement of the outstanding loan on SMS - along with naming rights for ten years (£500 000 x 10 = £5 million) we could talk to Norwich Union about splitting the £600 payment in two instalments. We strike a deal with the council with regard to rates and negotiate a very low deal. Then all season ticket monies £7475000 go towards the team funds - there will be no loan to pay on SMS as the fans will have bought SMS. The freehold for the stadium is then held in some charitable trust so no one has any claim on it. On top of the 7 475 000 you would have other stadium income, hospitality, food, gigs, league/cup prize money/tv money. kit and merchandise. A CEO is apppointed to run the business on say £65,000 a year. You also do the 320 fifty year season tickets at £12000 (with nice seats and a nice little lounge) at £12 000 a ticket £3 840 000 - this pays off Barclays. This then clears £28 million of the debts - Staplewood is thrown into the deal by the administrator and Jacksons farm is sold to clear any outstanding creditors. What do you think? This way the fans pay for the stadium and season ticket monies go to the club as normal. The fans have no say in the running of the club - and our main business is football. Club saved and away we go.... How about it!
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No one could be that much of a ****!!!!
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Don't walk away mate you are doing a good job - get the other thread locked for the time being. Keep plugging away with the administrator you are on the right lines.
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My mate at university was from sheffield he told me this joke Whats the difference between girl from Barnsley and a Sea lion - ones big fat ugly and smells of fish and the other is a Sea Lion! That summed it up really - its a **** hole of a northern town with nothing to look forward to other than other peoples misery! but i do like dickie Bird and Parki though!
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Would be great fun as well! By the Bailey way i'll start it off - £100 quid for whatever your selling - happy to be out bid!
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You really are a defeatist - have you no churchillian spirit at all - triumph in the face of adversity my friend - and that what does n't defeat us makes us stronger. Half full not half empty. I think the only two people being down beat on here are you and rattlehead - We raise the dough between us - and then we either run with the model if it works or we get genuine investment but we need to keep the club alive in the short term. What needs to happen is to have all these great ideas channeled under one umbrella and quickly - something needs to be announced tomorrow so we can all rally together - on our own we are just whispers together we are a choir! So chin up my friend and embrace the world - smile at it and you will find it smiles back x
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What about a totaliser at the ground - do you remember how exciting that used to be on BLue Peter!
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Why don't we sell season tickets in advance derry - that would give us our backup finances. On top of the donated funds. Lets say we set the season ticket renewal price at the same amount as 08/09 we can the pay that money into a seperate account. When season tickets are issued we will already have paid and this would also be a marker for any potential buyer as the money would already be in the pot. Also if we turned one of the lounges in the hospitality area into a lounge for 50 year season ticket holders - say there are 320 of these 50year season tickets @ £12000 each - that would net £3 840 000. The season tickets would be transferable and would represent good value (this is on top of any pledges) but as you can see this one act would almost wipe away our overdraft! 320 people is only 1% of ground capacity so think this would be a good idea. A charity gig would almost certainly raise £1million (25000 tickets @ £40) An auction of memoribilia, dinners, high profile pre season friendlies - this can be done. We must unify with the other groups and rally behind a central figure. Personally MLT would be the man for me to be the media front. Look at the hype generated by shearer going back to newcastle. Also I know CB fry and others have been grumbling about the wages of players but if we take over the club then surely we could review the wage structure - don't look at the past - look to the future! If we let the club die and it starts again as an AFC Wimbledon style club it will take years to get back to where we are now - if we all chuck in a monkey we could save ourselfves from having to start again! Also first appointment when we take over te club - Woggy Taylor back as KIT MAN! Also improve food and catering - we could really make this a model for other clubs. Get the council on board and we could be off and running. Appoint a CEO and make sure we cap wages at maybe £50000 or £60000 for CEO, none of these ridiculous £100000+ salaries. There are loads of other ideas - lets show wilde and lowe what the customers really want and thats our club back!
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what was it nick - throw it up inan auction!
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Can you see the bigger picture or are you just hung up on BWP?
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100% Agreed - needs to be a fresh organisation with new people - no disrespect to illingsworth but I feel it needs to be driven on with some new people under a new banner. This is the chance to start again with a clean slate - get back to being a family club with good traditions and values. I think the year on year season ticket discount would form the dividend. Would we have a say in setting season ticket pricing structure?
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Do you want this club to survive?
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Happy to be involved in any way - WE NEED TO SAVE THE CLUB!
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Are you on his team in the forum match? what are you after?.... a bit of special attention in the shower?
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The Artful Dodger is a huge saints fan + David Gray is meant to be. Howard Jones - Graig David... could be quite a good day!
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defo in - proxy the power to someone who cares deeply about te club, lives locally and has the heart to be the fron tof this. Well liked, honest, loyal - someone we would all get behind. A fresh face but someone we know and respect.......... Get LE GOD ON BOARD! Defo a £1000 from me - we need to get this going and talk to the administrator quickly - let him know that there is a popular fanbase that are willing to save the club. We then go to the council and see what they can do. They need this club to help keep the city alive!
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Everyone puts in a days salary?? Players fans and staff - shoud add up to a bit - keep us going for a couple of weeks. Also everyone is doing the same regardless of job income or anything.
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The City can not afford to loose either the team or the stadium - so is it time our council to get involved. The stadium is one of the few assests it has. Apart from that our town is very second rate. They have a vault full of art that is not on display worth many millions of pounds and also had money to invest in Iceland so why don't they buy the stadium and lease it back. Plus it can then become a community stadium and maybe get used more. The club can play a small rent until it gets back on its feet and away you go! Just an idea but surely that would secure the future of the club if we can get the stadium debt of our back? Plus we need to do something now - pass the pot around we are broke and we need money to save ourselves!
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seconded! well done docker!
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But look what Nial Quinn has done at Sunderland - The popular figure head of a consortium. MLT would surely fit this bill - knows and love s the club. Unifys the fans and a great front man. This would be my preffered role for him. BTW - Too many people are quick to write him off as a potential manager. We need someone to believe in and some one to give us hope - MLT has always done that...to be quite honest he could still play at the level we are at now... not the whole game of course!
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Forum match at SMS - one space remaining (away team manager!)
ooohTerryHurlock replied to stevegrant's topic in The Saints
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The two week international break is really too long!