notnowcato

A perpetual cycle is where you start again from the very same state you started the previous cycle. If you think that's the case then fair enough, I disagree.

Do I think we can achieve promotion this season? Yes. Is this the route I thought they'd take, back in May? No.

With a really simple answer, it's not a perpetual cycle.

NOOOOOO!!!! Most players will leave if we're not promoted.

Now you're confusing me... do you want to be more Millwall or not? Let's see where we are after 46 games, like it or not RM will be here for the duration.

Fuck me, this is controversial / scraping the barrel. Good to see Turkish thinks promotion will be a bonus this season. 🤔 I'm not sure what you're referring to at the Fans Forum.

Sorry, are you talking about if we’re promoted or not promoted?? (I might be fucking with you)

Let’s be more Millwall, great point.

Not really. Your point was about starting ‘Russball’ again next summer if we don’t get promoted, when clearly the majority of the squad, that we have some control over, will be in place enabling the refresh of new players into the squad to be a much smaller change to the overhaul we’re currently in the middle of.

The point you appear to be deliberately missing is the relevance of promotion or not to us losing players. It’s in the thread, read it if you really care.

After you…

I’ve tried to enlighten you twice.

Try reading it again. You said, paraphrasing, most of our squad will be off if we’re not promoted this season. Apologies for calling out bollocks when I see it.

The myth is (paraphrasing) "most players will want out if we're not promoted this season and so 'Russball' will have to start again" - it's clearly bollocks. We will lose, arguably, some of our best players (of which some we have no control over) but the majority who will stay for next season know how to play the way Jason and Russell wants.

It’s not even in the same ball park. Bless.

2-0 away win. 3 wins from the last 4. Edge into a play off spot.

Simply because the loans and out of contract players are unlikely to be with us whether we are promoted or not, therefore cannot add ahem credibility to the myth of us losing most of the squad if we’re not promoted. You’re welcome.

I feel another SaintsWeb myth emerging. The “most players will want out if not promoted this season”. The 2 important words in this emerging myth being “most” and “want”. Most and want in this context suggests over half the first team squad will move of their own volition if we’re not promoted. For now, we’ll leave to one side the fact that some will move even if we are promoted. We’ll also ignore those on loan and those coming to the end of their contract as their future is outside the club’s control and not necessarily dependent on the league we’d be playing in. If we’re not promoted this season we will more than likely lose: KWP, Alvarez, Sulemana. We might lose: Shea, Stu, Bednarek Am I wrong? Can we stop peddling myths as facts??

Unfortunately your analogy leaves out the floaters left in the tub following Jones and Selles' time in charge.

<<Checks table again as last time I checked, we were 1 point off the play offs...>> <<Checks DeLorean hasn't moved off the drive and that we're in "OK October" and not "Shocking September"...>> Considering the significant change in playing style being authorised by JW, implemented by RM and adopted by the team, it's not a bad start and signs that things are improving.

But you are perfectly qualified to judge how a transformation is progressing. Give me a break.

Fear not Russell, the Southampton fanbase are as patient as fuck

Funny. He looks decent with the ball at his feet when 1 on 1 with an isolated full back. But yeah, possession something something blah

I get your point but it's not as though we took our foot off the gas after scoring in the 2nd minute.

Show me an approach that always works.