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I like him, but a lot of gloss came off with those subs today. Smallbone for Sulemana shredded a lot of Rusk’s credibility. Archer, who showed some quality, being replaced by Stewart also weakened us. I’m trusting/hoping that Spors and his managerial appointment will realise that players like Smallbone and Stewart are not good enough to be first choice in the Championship next season.

At least you should have plenty of room to stretch out.

He is, sadly. Bang below average! Will that descriptor do?

Bang average at Prem level. Very, very good in the Championship. The evidence is overwhelming.

Gutless? Maybe you’re right but last night for 91 minutes and 17 seconds I thought we played some good Football and most players were giving their all, even if at times, that all isn’t quite good enough. You could argue that Wellington for Manning might have been the better choice, but otherwise this was as close to our best side playing in their best positions we’ve seen for ages. Many have argued that Downes and Ugochuku are our best holding midfield combination, and they proved it last night. I suppose Ugochuku goes back to Chelsea, but he and Downes in the Championship would be a massive step towards an immediate return. Fernandes and KWP were both outstanding last night. Christ, Fernandes is a rolled gold gem! If by some miracle we keep him next season and add some quality to the squad, I’m confident an automatic return is a good prospect. KWP, a player who is certain to leave and take his rightful place in another Prem lineup gave us at least one last reminder of his class. To see him busting a gut and creating so many attacking opportunities gave lie to some people’s suspicions that he was coasting toward the summer. Onuacho has his limitations. Sometimes his feet don’t seem to keep up with the rest of his body, but he has a great first touch; holds the ball up and offloads well; is a good header of the ball and if he could replace the scuff with a cleaner struck shot, he would be a real asset next season if he stays. Ramsdale was outstanding - that save to his left from Mateta was as pure as goalkeeping gets. It’s been a pleasure to watch him this season and he will leave with most people’s admiration. A great shame we didn’t get past Derby’s points tally last night. It will happen though, and the performance was the most encouraging thing we’ve seen from Saints since the West Ham game. Not that should save Juric’s job. His card should have been marked by now.

Fraser, along with the likes of McCarthy, Manning, Smallbone, Armstrong etc are all players who contributed to the promotion, but should have been offloaded at seasons end. Let’s hope the lesson is learned if we’re fortunate enough to bounce back next season.

Someone on Total Saints Podcast was making the point that not so long ago a trip to Selhurst Park or a visit by Palace represented a good prospect of a win. Superior recruitment and managerial appointments (by Palace) have scuppered that.

I’m glad you mention Wellington. Looks more than a decent LB, and is going to be a major asset in the Championship next season. Baffling that Juric has binned him off, and along with the hauling off of Fernandes; reverting back to 3 CBs and more crazy substitutions , he (Juric) has sealed his fate - surely it has to be caretaker Rusk immediately as a start to clearing the debris. You can probably add unlikely to the chances of Fernandes staying next season too. Any possibility snuffed out by Juric’s treatment of him yesterday.

He could be handy again next season.

Thought it should of been a red card - just for the absolute cynicism and disrespect Nunes showed to KWP.

The point, in sacking Juric now and installing a caretaker is quite clear. Likeable though he is; refreshingly honest and up front though he has been, he’s failed dismally in several key areas. Despite claiming to have followed the Club prior to joining and gaining a knowledge of the players - he clearly hasn’t. The spectacle of watching Aribo, Bree and even Manning and the potentially excellent LB Wellington thrown into CB roles in Juric’s inflexible defensive formation with a weird man marking system thrown in has been every bit as cringeworthy to watch as Martin’s possession obsession. Let’s not even raise the subject of the midfield fiasco…..but his misplaced faith in the unfortunate Smallbone comes quickly to mind. Given the financial implications are the same, whether he stays or goes at the end of the season, why not put an end to this slow drip humiliation? Give Ivan his money, let him lick his wounds and give him a chance to salvage something of his managerial reputation. Install a Rusk like caretaker so we can limp to seasons end with a focus on the clear out and rebuild. Let’s not demoralise the players, supporters and Club any longer than necessary.

He’s done it before!

Yes, the one thing SR have done ok with was holding a line on their valuations at the end of the 22/23 season. Lavia, Tino and JWP all going for the “right money”. Dibling is the obvious first saleable asset to cash in on, even if some of the shine has come off lately. Fernandes should attract a sizeable fee, though whatever he goes for it’s likely to be a “bargain” given the scope for further improvement. Would that then provide a chance to keep THB to help the promotion push. I suspect anything north of 25 million will be too tempting for SR.

Don’t expect any calling out of Trump by Albanese, the Australian Prime Minister, or from Dutton, the leader of the Opposition. Australia acts like the 51st State of the USA. The present Labour Government is too scared to rock the USA boat, apart from a few grumbles about tariffs, and the Opposition Leader, likely to be Prime Minister in a few months is spruiking the populist ideas straight from the Trump playbook.

I’ve done it once. Back in 2012, last game of the season, Saints had to beat Coventry in the Championship to confirm automatic promotion. I put 200 AUD on Coventry thinking the 2k collect would numb disappointment if the unthinkable happened. 4-0 Saints.

Yes, fair enough - perhaps what I should have said was that even with the lifeline Potter has given him, he likely won’t start many Prem games in the future. It will be interesting to see what happens with him in the summer. My broader point is one of admiration of JWP. He has maximised his earning power; his premier league appearances; England representation (senior and age level) through technical skills, graft and hard work, rather than athleticism or silky skills. Some credit to Ralph who kickstarted a stalling career.

JWP would be handy for us in the Championship, but it obviously won’t happen. His days as a starting Prem midfielder are well behind him. You have to marvel at the way he has continued to command such a high salary, starting with the 100k (pw) plus he was on in our relegation season given his limited output, free kicks included recently.

It was the final straw for me today - with Juric. Bad enough to be so rigid about playing the 3 CBs, but when it repeatedly includes Aribo and Bree (God almighty he’s an awful player) then alarm bells must ring. Likewise, the continuing inclusion of Smallbone? Juric can’t be next seasons Manager.

Yes, it’s been a decent spiral in CB quality if you take a line through the likes of Claus, Svensson, Fonte, Toby, VVD.

Fact checking seems to have gone out of fashion all over the place. Let the Farmer have his day in the sun - he’s another still grieving the loss of Russ.

I base that idea on the evidence of the last month or so where playing 3 CBs hasn’t worked, particularly when non-CBs like Bree, Manning and Aribo have played. The other factor in our leaky defence has been a weak midfield, culminating last week with the pairing of Smallbone and Aribo. I’d be happy enough with Downes and Les Ugo - I posted before the press conference , so wasn’t aware of the Downes/Juric “reconciliation”. Having Aribo as the fresh legs replacement is the right way to go. Clearly having Fernandes play that central attacking midfielders role is his best position, but in the absence of Downes, Fernandes has the ability to play that box-to-box role while sacrificing some of his attacking game. I’m wondering what has happened to Gronbaek? Looked ok in a couple of appearances but seemingly not fancied by Juric.

Fernandes is your man!

I’d like to see Juric declutter the tangle of full-backs and centre backs. Ramsdale. - KWP and Wellington and two specialist CBs. Strengthen the midfield by playing Les Ugo with Fernandes slightly advanced. Sulemana, Gronbaek, Dibling, with Onuachu up front.

A bit optimistic to think we’ll keep Fernandes. But your point is well made - both the loan moves of Edwards and Charles have worked well for all parties, and both could/should be first team starters (for us) next season.

I don’t think there’s a person on this forum who would disagree with your last paragraph.