solentstars

Don't know why you posted that,you asked why I think ukip are a bunch of clowns and I told you,unless you think they are so professional that's your option. Can't see the point of them now we have a referendum.

Oh come on all the misfits who have been kicked out,their EU mps who are lining there pockets in brussels,one of them who got kicked out joining the French front national racist block recently and a leader who resigns and then unresigned 2 days later. What a bunch of clowns

Its a Micky mouse party and always has been and if it disappeared tomorrow I don't think it would be missed.only good thing its done is destroy the racist party's like the BNP,Britain first from getting major support.

Yes it was,but you always get silly comments from the poor me victim mentality from some people Lol

agree i think chris evans is a good choice,but has all things in life,top gear became to predicable and the jokes became more and more lame,it needed fresh talent has it became so predicable and boring in the end.

Rip had a lot of time for him,a character people could relate to and independent thought.

Love the way the outs live in la la land and find a few minor issues to justify there mindset like lumping all pro Europeans has all the same.when the outs come up with a real plan on a road map on how we survive and keep our wealth and prestige outside of our biggest market with the real world rather than clap trap nationalism from a bygone age I will take them serious .

seems like you know your stuff unlike the fantasies some believe on here ,i was going to post the same thing it also applies to norway who,s prime minister has said last year he would like to have a say in the rule making but cannot has its not a member but pay into the eu budget to get access to the eu market.

its just common sense for the car industry or manufacturing on where you base your future investment rather than make believe world of a golden new dawn outside and its a no brainer and all this nonsense that Brussels runs the uk is just dream stuff,we chose and sign up on common rules when ever there are treaty changes or can opt out of bits we do not want.it was the tories who took us into the eu and signed up to the big treaty changes and i expect just like the referendum by a labour government of 1975 when most people wanted to leave,we voted about 67 % to stay in ,which i voted in , cameron will come back with a few minor concessions dress it up as a big deal and with big business and the media behind him ,i predict we will vote to stay in and put to behind the internal battle of his party and engage in constructive future being one of the big players in the eu and look forward in the global economy with influence . its funny when i left school labour was the anti-eu party and the tories were the pro eu party.it just seems like a rerun of the past to me.

i suppose at your age and poor eyesight why i am not surprised that you need help from a 13 year old,but then i realized you being a ukip supporter ..that's explains it all.

ok if that what you believe,you vote on that and believe you would get better deals than being in the eu i . i expect the germans will build the mini car in Germany instead of here and nissen move there car factory to france and ford and and vauxhall will follow over time to a market of 420 million customers and i expect the scots will be off as well has they don,t want leave the eu.

so you believe we can just walk away with out problems then based on a hunch,most of alot of industry is foreign owned and would move ther bases over to the mainland eu countries over time for the single market access .its not easy choice thats why people will need to make a hard choice of reality over emotion.we are living in a globalized world with major trading blocks. i rather be at the table making rules rather then outside with no say in decisions on laws which may effect us.some of choices we have outside are below . [h=3]New negotiations and alternative roles[/h] If the UK were to leave, there would of course be intense negotiations whereby the UK seeks to reach agreement with the EU, for example, on free trade – ideally seeking to retain some of the benefits already obtained with minimum regulation. Those in favour of leaving point to Norway and Switzerland as examples of success stories. It is true that these countries have made independent arrangements work for them. But it is doubtful that the UK would be happy with the Norwegian model – one where it continues to contribute significantly to EU programmes and be bound by regulations with no say or voting power. It would be an EU-influencer, not a leading player in decision-making. Unacceptable. The Swiss model, although taking many years to negotiate, would seem preferable. Here the UK would negotiate separate arrangements with the EU, enabling it, within reason, to cherry-pick what it wants. Of course, this relies on Brussels playing ball. [h=3]Impact on global positioning[/h] Let us not forget that the world is much bigger than Europe and many other trade agreements dealing with the rest of the world will also need to be reviewed and negotiated by the UK. In doing so alone, the UK will have less political weight around the table, which could impact its ability to get as good a deal. It might consider joining another association such as European Free Trade Association (EFTA) and adopting its agreements, but it is doubtful the UK would be any happier accepting agreements that it was not involved in shaping. Presumably as a precursor to all this, the Foreign Secretary launched a review last year to analyse what the UK's membership of the EU means for the national interest. The Government is clearly starting to collect the collateral to build its case for what will be a passionate, divisive and vocal debate.

that will never happen in our lifetime.

so you vote to leave our biggest export market and we will still have to to pay the same money into the eu and abide by tradeing rules with out any say on the rules to have access to there markets or leave and refuse to pay in and have tariffs put on us and accept less investment and our auto industry. and big manufacturis relocating to the mainland and poorer standard of living as a nation. its a more complicated argument and people will need to understand the consequences of being a island trapped outside our biggest markets.we were one of the poorest nations before we joined the eu and have had massive investment since because of the single market.

love your insults and hatred,but reading your post i let the forum posters decide if have the mindset of someone of die hard nationalist or a open mind type mindset . the problem is we are all getting older but your still useing childish nonsense like eussrs which i expect anyone under a certain age would not have a clue your on about .we chose to join the eu threw parliament and voted yes to stay in under wilson,thats democracy,... stick with ukip i,m sure they love you intellectual rantings when you had your warm beer and pie with like crusty like minded souls.

thanks, that the reality of the world and not the fantasy make believe world of being outside and still paying into the eu, without any say at the top table and i voted yes the last time back in the 1970s and see no reason to leave now,i remember how things were before we joined with tariffs and poor quality products we produced and travelling to eu had loads of paper work and bland food we use to eat.

not impressed,its nothing special but i don,t buy the overpriced shirts anyway.not worth £50 anyway.. £24.99 for adults would be a realistic price but its a good earner for the football clubs.

no and thats being honest and i for one think the last coalition government was great for this country,i hope cameron is true to his word and i believe he is a one nation tory rather than a believer of the Thatcherism divisive politics of the 80s nasty party.i like the way they seem to have alot of people in goverment who have come from working class backgrounds.

they had a disaster at the polls .one seat..so much for the new dawn .

good post and i suspect your right,i voted tory the last 2 elections so we are not all nasty and selfish, but i am in the centre ground but i agreed labours policy on the mansion tax and non doms should be made to pay there fair share of tax and need a harder purge of tax avoiders at the top also ,and i have paid a higher rates of tax for years but my quality of life is more important than a little extra in my pay packet .i hope cameron sticks to the centre ground and keeps us all has one nation but fear the looney right of our party will cause trouble to follow there agenda and undermine him like they did majors government who was a decent man.

good result for conservatives who i voted for but would have liked the liberals in coalition to stop the looney euro right of the party in check bill cash etc ,but think its disgusting that a party can win a majority with 36 % of the vote in this day and age and that applys to all partys in the past ..at least the coalition had over 50% of votes in the last government,unbelievable when you think that 64 out of every 100 voters did not vote for party in power and even thow i think ukip is oddball party of dreamers and loons, it very harsh on the likes of the ukip which gets one mp on £4 million votes.

looks like the sun and the daily mail have lost the plot with there headlines on the tomorrows front pages,looks like panic has set in.

and also blair was maggie thatchers natural successor ,carrying on her legacy and turning the labour party into a mark 2 conservative party,hence why i voted tory has i found them more left wing than labour at the last election...diane abbot is a joke in my eyes and a disgrace.

i think most people of the country are like that, but we have some really stupid posters who don,t understand that.

whys that..since i voted tory at the last election .