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Graham Potter.

In the interests of pedantry, may I suggest you look up the word “reactionary”.

The better team won. Punting the ball at the corner flags and chasing it. Aerial bombardments. Glad I don’t watch that every week. Nonetheless enjoy trips to West Brom and hope we both stay up.

Some balls are hotter than others and they’re all in it and always have been ever since anyone didn’t like the draw they got. But let’s not despair. They only beat us by a last gasp effort by the toddler.

Value added.

Agreed. Renew. It’s a way of life. I’m f’king stuck with them anyway.

There were people on this very forum saying some weeks ago how they’d prefer a relegation battle to mid table obscurity. https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?58977-Back-down-to-the-Championship&p=2555208#post2555208 A case of be careful what you wish for.

Isn’t John Williams the bloke who was expected to be appointed Saints’ chairman before Ralph suddenly appeared?

A perfect metaphor for the second half performance.

You can forgive an awful lot if players give 100%. Not for the first time this season heads dropped. By the end today they looked like they’d given up. That was desperately poor from the players and they deserve criticism but ultimately it comes down to the manager. We’ve got a nice team with a nice but ineffectual manager when what the players need is a rocket up their arses.

Let’s not be hasty. We haven’t seen Ralph’s pledges yet.

Guardian - 10 things to look out for.... 1) Van Dijk faces the brickbats Welcome back Virgil van Dijk ... no Southampton supporter will be saying when the centre-back strides onto the St Mary’s pitch on Sunday. The reception will be hostile and something the Dutchman will have to cope with as he continues to adjust to life as a Liverpool player. It’s been a rocky process for Van Dijk – following his Hollywood-esque debut against Everton there have been appearances in two defeats and a draw, with six goals conceded in the process. Van Dijk insists he can handle the pressure that comes with being the world’s most expensive defender and, despite the turmoil, he has generally impressed for Jürgen Klopp’s side. Now comes arguably Van Dijk’s most difficult test. Prosper amid the jeers and the 26-year-old may feel he has truly arrived at Anfield.

I’m not sure you’re right about that and would be interested to know where you got that information. From what I can tell buy out clauses are different from release clauses. 1. Buy out clauses are prevalent in La Liga. They are as you describe. Essentially, the player can buy out his contract for the sum specified in his contract. In practice the buying club pays. 2. A Release clause is a clause in a players contract linked to specific events or conditions e.g. sale of the player is triggered when say a top six club offers a minimum sum. In fact, there is another type of Release Clause called a “Good Faith Release Clause”. This merely requires the selling club to negotiate in good faith should say an interested club offer a minimum sum specified in the players contract. But the key difference is that there is no obligation on the part of the selling club to sell. They simply have to negoatiate in good faith. An example is Wenger offering £40m plus a penny for Suarez, or whatever it was. With release clauses the drafting is key. So with Promes, I think any clause in his contract is not a Buy Out clause because he isn’t with a Spanish club. Any clause in his contract would be a Release Clause. This could be a trigger type release clause but one where the the drafting was poor or silent on e.g. payment terms, meaning negotiation by the clubs. Or we could have offered less than the trigger sum and the selling club was willing to negotiate (unlikely imo). Or the release clause could be a Good Faith Release clause leaving the clubs to negotiate in good faith and we eventually agreed terms. Either way we didn’t get it over the line but I believe the club did indeed want Promes, as second choice to Walcott. Finally, not aware of any UEFA rules on these clauses. They appear to be contractual.

Yes he did that. Does make you wonder doesn’t it? I mean, we sat back under Puel in matches towards the latter part of last season. Just saying.

It was the only decent cross of several he made, as I recall. He gets into positions to cross well enough but in contrast to Bertrand who fizzes in early and accurate crosses (e.g for Carrillo) Cedric’s are all too often a bit limp and aimless. I noticed in the second half he didn’t look up before crossing even although he had time to do so. We attacked down the left flank where we were more incisive, more in the second half than in the first, when Cedric had the bulk of the opportunities to cross but didn’t capitalise. Nonetheless I still want to see both our fullbacks getting forward as much as possible, especially now we have presence in the box with Carrillo. I believe it’s key to winning matches.

I think you’ve described a buy out clause which is different. Unless someone can demonstrate otherwise then I am assuming a release clause may be whatever is written in the contract and nobody knows what that is. If it’s a simple case of paying a set sum, say 30m in this case, and the selling club doesn’t want to sell, then Saints offering less than the trigger sum is pointless and of course they wouldn’t waste their time doing that.

How do you know release clauses are usually payable up front? Surely it depends on the terms of the release clause in each contract doesn’t it?

Nobody knows exactly what’s in the release clause but you can well imagine the clause is poorly drafted and doesn’t make explicit who pays the player’s 15%. Otherwise I can’t think why Saints would still be offering less than the trigger of 30m a day before the window closes.

We don’t buy success we destroy it. We find potential and we crush it. We march on.

Millwall away is an interesting trip back in time. And if the football is crap you can always watch their fans, from a zoological perspective.

Who wants a Quincy in their team anyway. We’d be a laughing stock.

Lol yes, that’s the beast.

I took a look at one of his YouTube clips earlier. If we’re making comparisons, he seemed to me more Pelle than Lambert. I don’t care if he’s paddy mcginty’s donkey as long as he sticks the ball in the net.

Sounds like a description of Austin.

He hasn't signed yet. If he signs, can I respectfully suggest we give the **** a few matches before writing him off.