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Personally Eric, risking ridicule on here, I'd go for Morrison of Cardiff, not the quickest but a beast in the air and a decent defensive organiser. He also gets his share of goals up front at corners etc. Wouldn't be too expensive, even worth a trade for one of the others.

Ings should be the captain.

That was shocking. Just before the goal under no pressure Hojbjerg took his eye off the ball, the ball goes under his foot not long after it's in our net. The goal was a debacle of poor defending. Don't anybody try to tell me we don't need a fierce, competent defensive coach. Bertrand was a joke, he dithered and moved position at least four times at a trot and ended up in no man's land when the ball went in. He was marking nobody, just gesture defending. A decisive move to the back post would have been the way to go. Stephen's ball watching lost the attacker yet again. As for the possession, give me a break, the less possession we have the better our attacking football. For God's sake is there nobody at the club aware that we are being conned. The opposition want our centre backs to have the ball, as for Macarthy, he is a dopey idiot, alway looking to give the ball to a defender. When we have the ball at the back, does nobody realise why there is only a token press, it's to allow the defenders to rotate the ball and go nowhere. From there the tactic is simple, the ball back to Macarthy to recyle or kick it long into massed opponents who will attack, or worse an attempt to play it out of midfield, slowly drawing all but the centre backs forward, win the ball and hit us on the break with only the centre backs to try and defend and the full backs and midfield drawn out of position. A bit better control from Antonio and it was a hammering. We have to redefine again. Cedric is a hopeless, unintelligent defender. He tries his best but his physical deficiencies are a problem, he is not strong enough. Bertrand needs a bullet up his complacent arse. The centre backs in total aren't that good but neither are they that bad that a decent defensive coach couldn't improve a back four unit. We need a holding midfielder that ****ing holds and doesn't get drawn out. Then two attacking midfielders, Armstrong and maybe Boufal. Up front Ings, Djenepo, Adams or Long. Cut out the square possession, Macarthy stops passing it out and supplies big up and unders quickly. The back four defend we have five attackers we don't need both full backs up the field. Stop the goals is the key. After that the passing game is quick into the spaces running and forward passes. High tempo, high pressing. The opposite to how our ineffective team is trying to play. To sum up the sad fact is that the more possession we have the less attacking we do. Throw ins are abysmal, stop waiting for the full backs, just grab the ball and stck it down the line. Object, no danger, win another throw in, get in behind the defence in wide areas, get to the goal line or win a corner. Square passing and inside throws are easily cut out especially by delaying.

This is simplistic, especially when we paid so much for these so obviously flawed players. Vestergaard is slow, poor in the air with the turning circle of a tanker. Cedric is small etc this cannot be changed. Why the club paid so much for so little when one look would have seen these players problems. Other players could be coached to be better and more aware but it isn't happening. We have run out of money, having to sell and loan players before we can replace maybe one or two. Replacing players is not possible we have missed that boat with the wasted transfers of the recent seasons. We can afford a good coach to improve defensive play and organisation which is far better than carrying on making the same mistakes and doing nothing. That could really cost us. Especially if the EFL bring in a salary cap and relegated teams are unable to sell not very good expensive players.

One of the serious problems with all of our defenders is ball watching and consequently losing sight the player that inevitably scores, time and time again. Another problem is a lack of positional sense, almost a spacial disorientation. A lack of defensive knowledge, for example not recognising that an opponent has a weak side that can be played on rather than letting players onto their strength. It is only by having a seriously bright and experienced defensive coach that these historical weaknesses can be knocked on the head.

I watched WH v Arsenal last night, What a load of dross! WH didn't touch the ball for the first two minutes, Arsenal passed it around at the back, no attacks and no pressing from WH, mostly stood off and watched. The rest of the match was pretty sterile. WH with a lucky deflected header from a corner. Arsenal created a few chances got it to 1-3 and kept the ball. I hope WH play the same.

our defenders didn't move That is vital too but it's all the other players that need educating and brain washing into a ruthless determined state of mind. A vocal controlling centre back captain, would be necessary if we could find one. An example of the other though through education, when Longstaff shot until the ball hit the back of the net after Mcarthy's block only Newcastle players followed it in. Our defenders were on their heels ball watching and nobody moved. That happens a lot with most of the players.

By that I mean not only a defensive coach but a coach that was firstly a highly exiperienced, preferably ex international and has been a proper team captain as a player. Secondly a strong personality. Dave Brailsford, the Olympic, Sky, and now Ineos cycling team's coach/manager was asked what he put his great success down to. His response was immediately "Marginal Gains". That is the little things that make things better overall. Against Norwich two moments summed that up. Just after half time Shane Long was tracking Tetty on the halfway line made a half hearted pass at a press and let him go unhindered, despite being the quicker player, he couldn't be bothered because he didn't see the danger. One pass later the ball was in our net. The second was leading 2-1, Cedric had the ball on the right touchline there was seconds of injury time left, instead of going for the corner or passing for somebody else to get in the corner, he just aimlessly lofted the ball in front of the penalty area, in front of the Norwich defenders, the ball went upfield quickly and Norwich had two chances with seconds left. Shades of Peter Crouch against Everton in 2005. Again yesterday two things again, the first Redmond broke quickly down the centre and was breaking the Newcastle line, Shelvey tripped him purposely which finished the move. The second and probably the most important moment in the game for us. A free kick to the back post Long headed it out towards the touchline, Carroll picked it up but Long quickly got out to Carroll then stopped a few yards short giving Carroll room to cross on his left foot for the first goal. What was wrong, Long should have known Carroll's natural foot was his left, firstly he was blocking his right and showing him inside. Instead he should have blocked Carroll's left foot and inside, showed him the line on his weaker foot, especially as he was a lot quicker than Carroll. This simple thing cost us a goal and probably the match. Again he could have fairly physically tackled Carroll and taken the player and ball out of play. The defensive attitude, organisation and knowledge of the players is poor. Too many are playing off the cuff and just reacting often wrongly. We need an expert defensive coach to change the mindset. Even great players can't do it. Our very average defenders need guidance and instruction. Danny Ings who has spent a few years at Liverpool gets it. He tracks, challenges, tackles and wins a lot of balls defending wherever he is on the pitch. We need all the players completing the press and not just letting the opponent go just because it doesn't look dangerous in that moment. It is a big weakness, If we can cut out the errors we can make the goals we do score worth more points. It's the "Marginal Gains" that will bring in the points. IMHO get a defensive coach, Three goalkeeping coaches isn't working, unless putting out the cones is important.

Forster was immense for Celtic. Bring him back now his confidence is high. Either that or swop him and Elyanoussi for Julien and Ajer. Give them a couple of centre backs as makeweight. Long was good defending in the air at the back, shame he let Carroll cross. JWP had a pretty good game from one of his biggest critics.

Not a bad performance overall. Mcarthy gives me the willies with his kamikazi coming out. The second goal was poor from him. I think we are far better when not passing back. When we put the ball into the channels as happened with our goal it is much more effective. Mcarthy is poor at distribution and gets us into trouble often having to kick under pressure when it comes back to him. He needs to cut out the so called clever stuff and stick the high kick into the opponents defence. As happened the other night I take issue with Long, he spoilt another hard working game for me. He cleared the ball out to our left, chased it down then stood off Carrol and let him cross. He had stopped like he did for the Norwich goal. If he had piled on in after the ball and closed Carrol down to a yard showing the line on his wrong foot he wouldnt have been able to cross. Too many times players are making bad decisions at critical moments. They have to be ruthless and stop players rather than take an "it'll be alright I don't need to, I'll just stand off". Cedric again got us into trouble before the second goal, instead of putting the ball up to the forwards he passed back, eventually to Mcarthy whose clearance wasn't the best straight to an opponent, Newcastle then got forward getting a free kick. Other than that it was a pretty good team performance spoilt by some poor decision making. We are not ruthless enough.

Yes, there is a watch from the beginning button on the home screen. Have you got a smart tv that has it's own apps.

I used the smart tv smart hub app and the reception was very good. I don't know what remote control you use but I can only describe using the tv remote. press any of the up down L R arrows this brings up on the bottom of the screen the play or pause symbol with wind back or forward arrow either side. select using L or R then OK button. That takes care of the wind back etc. If you want to see again etc go to the app, select sport, select the match you will then have a choice of the match,3 min highlights, extended highlights, post match manager interviews, post match player interviews, each individual goal, pre match build up, etc etc. just select what you want to watch, for whichever match you want and it's all there.

Read what I said. It's not Messi I want, it's to see a home team going high tempo and aggressive. The fact that Hasnhuttl is trying to get them to play that way is enough. now the players have to deliver. Up to this week we had taken one point at home all season and hadn't won since April. Because of the way we are playing.

It's not entitled to see that we are being short changed by lazy, incompetent, under achieving multi millionaires who have been sucked in by the tika taka age without the ability or effort to play that way. We have to play the way that works for us rather than be relegated playing rubbish possession slow motion going nowhere. I pay for my seat whether I go or not. Hasnhutl is saying the right things, now he has to get back to getting his players to play that way or ship out those that don't. A right back and strong centre back is vital in January. A non figure head captain would help.

I've got a season ticket. After the sterile Bournemouth game I said I just couldn't watch the crossfield crap that is costing us points at home so I didn't go to Leicester, Everton, Watford and Norwich. The first half last night was going towards how they have to play. I don't want to see sideways then back to the keeper. First move unless impossible has to be forward at home. We create more pressure and better chances getting the ball up to the forwards. I may well give WHU a miss, I want us playing high tempo, aggressive attacking football. The reason we can't get results at home is the sterile possession crap that rarely goes anywhere but back to the keeper or pinched by the opposition. Although I've paid for my seat I'm not going until the team plays the way it has to get results. I've supported Saints since the mid fifties and these last three seasons are the most consistently unwatchable trash that has masqueraded as football that we've had to put up with.

Yes I can see him still scuffing the shot to the keeper and the ball being hoofed into our half. That stupidity was the difference in staying up or going down. We ought to pay particular attention to intelligence when recruiting. I have a theory that because of the US College system the US will eventually dominate world football. It will take a decade or more but eventually they will attain the same dominance as the US women already have.

Saints players in the main I think are basically thick which is a large part of our problem. Last night in the dying seconds of injury time a player who is an international, played in a winning European Championship team acted like a complete idiot. He had the ball about thirty yards from the corner on the touchline, what did the idiot do, no, he didn't get into the corner or even pass to somebody close for them to get into the corner he lofted the ball into the centre of the field in front of Norwich defenders who immediately counter attacked ending in the two shots that finally was shot over. We could easily have conceded there. Cedric is a clown. He or the ball should have gone into the corner to try and see the game out by playing off defenders for more throwins and corners like proper teams do. The previous week he only had to trip over the ball to give Obefimi a tap in instead he blasted it. Memories of Long in a similar position was touched by a defender went to ground and the defender came away with the ball and Watford scored with seconds left. All he had to do was knock it into the corner and chase it down. Last night for the Norwich goal he was close enough to Tetty in the centre of the field to either tackle him or stop him but because he was in the middle of the field saw no danger so didn't bother. One pass later it was in our net. Top players in top teams don't have this mindset they are battle hardened and know what to do to deprive the oppositon of any advantage. Our players are paid millions but play like rank amateurs.

I've just linked to the bt booster on the smart hub app and the picture was perfect. The firestick wasn't as good but watchable none the less with no buffering.

I watched on a Samsung smart tv 4K, The Prime app on the smart hub gave good quality reception. The firestick on the same tv wasn't quite as good. I also put it on my laptop for comparison and found that the TV was about 45 secs behind the lap top, excellent picture. I was using the Bt internet smart hub about three rooms away, the signal quality was showing marginal. I'm just about to link the tv etc to the Bt booster that I have about 6ft from the tv which showed an excellent signal. I couldn't be bothered to try and link it last night.

Nothing like seeing what you want to see, the first chance was a pass behind him he did well to get something on it and Foster just managed to touch it onto the bar, not too bad an effort at all. The second the ball was shin height and a better touch would have scored. He just didn't make a good enough contact. Ings missed one completely against MU trying to use his preferred foot. It's the way it goes in football.

That's a very fair comment. He has been appalling in the majority of games this season and not alone. However I have noticed a bit more dynamism in the last two games. One point I will make to those praising his goal scoring which is misleading. He has effectively scored a solitary goal from play in about sixteen games. The others, a missed penalty and a lucky rebound off the keeper that fell kindly for him, a good penalty and a solitary goal from virtually every free kick within range this season. Yes a good vital goal on Saturday but he isn't the master dead ball specialist that some are making him out to be and certainly not a goal threat during normal play.

Who cares except Watford, they really deserved it to turn against them because of the cheating punched goal two seasons ago and the ref and linesman ruling out Austin's perfectly good goal last season because the linesman thought it hit Yoshida from the touchline. It was a yard away and not in the goalkeepers eyeline. Both of those decisions could have relegated us. We deserved a bit of luck against them.

Whether it's derogatory or not is none of your business. We are not having politically correct thought police on here. If you want to exist on here then live and let live. If you don't like it and it upsets you do the logical thing and frequent a more correct forum. It's none of my business either, I saw it and ignored it which is what any grown up would have done.

Good result. Two goals. **** the handball, I saw the punched goal two seasons ago and the disallowed goal last season that didn't go within a yard of Yoshida as he went backwards away from the ball. **** them. Now to the nitty gritty. Bertrand, mostly ok but caught ball watching again and missed the mark dropping off, needs to turn square so he can see ball and opponent. Cedric was poor and got us into too much trouble, Valery next game for me. Bednarek okayish, Somebody needs to lock them in a room and ream them out especially Stephens. They are defenders first and foremost they are not ****ing ball players. I lost count of the short passes cut out by the pressuring opposition that also includes JWP and PEH. FFS under presure put your boot through it into the corners and let our forwards chase it down. If it goes out of play,so what, no danger there. All sorts of problems playing square and backwards and bringing an uncomfortable keeper into it under pressure. We have enough quick forwards, as soon as we have the ball get it forward to them, cut out the backwards and sideways, we're not Man City we're Southampton so recognise the limitations and get the ball into areas where we can hurt the opposition. If we can't pass it forward, miss out the midfield and put the opposition under pressure.

It's all right folks stand down, it's in hand, due to start 3rd Feb. That's what usually happens and coincides with our urgency on transfers.