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I agree with a lot of this, however if a player is picked to play in a position he either gives it a go and tries to make a success of it or doesn't play at all. McGoldrick can play wide adequately. He seems to be better there than sterile in the middle, dominated by the centre backs. The problem is that once picked in one of the fundamental positions for the team, he stays inside, doesn't play wide, causing us massive problems.

Together with possible favouritism from interfering executives and a player that thinks he is fireproof because of it. If he continues the way he is, a few more results like yesterday, more supporters realising what is happening to the team because of it, will cause him and maybe his sponser to start taking real stick from fed up supporters.

This is not an anti McGoldrick thread. It is a criticism of the way he is ignoring his responsibilities. There is no question that he has various talents. His ignoring that he must play predominantly out to in from the line, when picked as one of the two wide men, is fundamental to the system breaking down, reducing passing options and exposing the right side of the defence. Against Norwich he did OK, against Coventry he was almost never there, but one of the times he was there he had our best chance. It's not hindsight to see a player bust a gut to get into a tap in situation and be ignored as McGoldrick ignored Pekart. At the start of the season JP and MW set down fundamental principles, two wide men was one of them. How can the system survive if one player refuses to play in the asigned position because he wants to play up the middle. Until he puts the team ethic first he should be left out and told why. I happen to know who Weston's sources are, they are absolutely on the inside. The Lowe rumour is more than that.

And there you have it!

Shellshocked?

He tends to miss-hit, or scuff a lot of shots. He should have been taken off several times this season for poor performances, but it appears anybody but McGoldrick is taken off.

I said he can play wide, because I've seen him do it. He was disciplined against Norwich and provided width and cover. Yesterday he didn't. If he is picked to play wide, he has to play there and not play centrally when he feels like it, as he did yesterday. If he is not going to play in his assigned position, he should be left out.

Against Norwich he held the width and the whole team was better for it. Against Coventry he didn't. The manager is at fault here. Either a player plays as picked, or is taken off when he fails to play as part of the team. McGoldrick plays for himself and his contribution to the team is poor.

It's not a bit, it is all the time, he just doesn't play where he is picked. Either he plays where he is picked or he doesn't play at all. If he doesn't think he can play wide, which he can, where is he going to play, because he sure as hell isn't good enough at this time to play as a central striker.

Kelvin Davies was dire last year. This year he has improved in some areas, distribution, coming for the odd cross, whilst his undoubted shotstopping has been good. If he drops back he will again be criticised McGoldrick in the here and now is causing big problems for us. He is also not scoring regularly or creating regularly. With these players, talking of the future means nothing, they are in the first team and the problems are now.

For the second goal Sky highlighted several times and commented on McGoldrick letting the scorer go, whilst appealing for offside with his arm in the air. The first goal was not directly attributable to McGoldrick. He was however in the centre and not wide. His wandering off the line left James continually exposed.

Neither will I, but that won't stop McGoldrick getting unmerciful stick if he doesn't change his attitude. The Lowe rumour isn't going to do him any favours in that direction either.

Some people have favourites, I don't and criticize weaknesses. McGoldrick's self indulgence is our biggest problem if it exposes even more the defensive weakness of the right back. McGoldrick holding width helps the right back. Yesterday it was the ball inside James that led to, I think three goals. The second was the flicked on throwin from Gunnarson where McGoldrick let his man go.

If he doesn't play where he is picked, and leaves the team exposed, passes as a last resort, doesn't mark his assigned opponent, that is a bad attitude and self indulgent.

I'm not disagreeing, but the right back has been completely without support. McGoldrick abandoning width and drifting inside is exposing James.

Don't even compare him to Lallana he is not in the same class. McGoldrick has some ability with a bad attitude, and unless he learns to be part of a team is going nowhere. I think the supporters will turn on him shortly. I can see it coming.

I agree, but if picked to play there, he has to discipline himself and play wide. Jay Tabb scored twice coming in on the back post yesterday. McGoldrick wouldn't have got either of those goals because he wouldn't have been there.

No we aren't Nick, this thread is about McGoldrick not Surman or specifically yesterday's match. If you think Surman was a problem then start another thread.

We all know what happened when Euell was taken off last season. McGoldrick is getting pretty close to becoming the same. Lowe may like him, but if he continues to **** off the supporters, he is on his way to an uncomfortable experience.

He shouldn't have even taken the shot on, Pekart had an open goal, and that was the least of his problems. Wrecking the team shape, not covering his colleagues, failing to mark for the second goal was unacceptable.

Don't be daft, Pekart was 5 yds to his left having bust a gut to get there, unmarked with an open goal. Forwards only convert a small number of chances in that position, goalkeepers usually save it. Pekart had an open goal FFS. Furthermore McGoldrick is not a clean striker of the ball, he scuffs more often than he gets a decent strike. He is also selfish, that is why he didn't pass, and didn't play for the team, causing us big problems.

McGoldrick is one of the most self indulgent players I have ever seen. When he plays wide, disciplines himself and provides us with width we play well. There is no big space on the right, that James tries to get into leaving space behind him to be exploited. He spent most of the game yesterday wandering inside as he did against Blackpool leaving no passing option wide. Worse still giving no cover to our right side, allowing opponents to come at us in waves down their left. He let his man go for the second goal and didn't mark him. His passing when he actually decided to pass was poor. He seems the only player in the team that seems to pass as a last resort rather than a first option. His ignoring the passing option to Pekart who had an open goal and was unmarked was disgraceful. What the hell is the manager doing letting him destroy the teams shape, when he should either drop him, take him off or preferably make the idiot play for the team.

You really have to be joking. He should have passed the ball 5 yds to his left for Pekart to tap into an open goal. I would want him to pass to a better placed colleague every time.

More like fannying!

Ben Reeves played left back for the reserves and was marking Ryan Smith.