Winnersaint

I just don't understand why that is so important to you or anyone for that matter. It's Saints we win some we lose some. Goes with the territory, has done since I first went in 1963. I was about to say that I do not know why it matters so much but then I realised it used to matter so much more in my teens and twenties, and we were really good then!

Cannot believe trolls like you. Why don't you just **** off. It's boring. I can live with Saints losing, god knows I've had enough practice at learning to accept it, I just cannot explain how ............. **** it I cant be arsed to argue anymore. Mods get rid of these trolling tossers!

Hope I am wrong, but can see the mongs out in force again at the weekend.

Only takes a couple of defeats for all the trolling mongs to resurface. TBH I don't let how Saints do affect me much anymore. If they win it's good, if they lose 'sh1t happens'. That's it for me and this part of the forum. Never been much of poster, partly because I can't be arsed to hold an opinion and argue it via a keyboard, face to face seems to suit me better. Less chance for outright mongs to hide in my opinion. Mods take note this board has been ruined by the trolls and the loonies have taken over the asylum. Maybe I just don't get internet forums and social media. I'll still lurk and post on anything cycling related on General Sport and keep a sane dialogue with the likes of VFTT, Badgerx16, sandwichsaint and any other MAMILS that care to join in the discussion

Happy Birthday! Was there at the Dell on Easter Monday 1966 when he made his debut. One on one he had no equal. A truly remarkable player and personality. So hard to convey how good these older players were. Given modern training, diet and tactical differences, he would have probably been a world beater. That said it wasn't all about success. He was seen as the natural successor to Martin Chivers when he went to Spuds, but still took a fair while to break into the first team. Was in the Combination Cup team (Reserves) in 1969 but was a first team fixture from the following season onwards. Legend is an overused term these days. Mick Channon was a true legend,

Yes, but the troll knows how much it annoys, so he sticks it in to get a bite.

Jesus saves! and Channon scores the rebounds!

Am I alone in thinking Sven Bender is a funny name?

Like watching saints. Chile, that is.

I've got a feeling that was the team rote taught to me by my dad when I was very slightly younger, probably the previous winter when there was sod all football going on. Vaguely remember Harry Penk and being disappointed that John Sydenham wasn't playing. The Leeds side was the embryonic Don Revie team which got promoted with Sunderland and reached the Cup Final the following year. i think John Giles had signed from Man U and the midfield included Billy Bremner and Bobby Collins who'd signed from Everton. That was some midfield. I hadn't reached my sixth birthday by the time I watched the game on my Dads shoulders on the Archers terrace.

RIP A member of the first Saints team I saw. Reynolds Williams Traynor Wimshurst Knapp Huxford Paine O'Brien Kirby Burnside Sydenham Saturday 26th October 1963. Crikey just realised I've racked up a half-century of saints supporting.

Decent upgrade on the wheels from standard Reparto Corse. What clipless arrangement did you go with road or mtb?

Just looked at the Strava segment times for Sa Colabra. Chapeau to the nipper 45 mins is good going. Wondering if the Simon Y listed as KoM is Simon Yeats Tour of Britain stage winner at Haytor. Also Alex D (Dowsett?) at a Movistar training camp? Dean Downing also.

The Shilton one was on a day when I was the wettest I've ever been at a match. No Goretex windproof/waterproof fabrics in those days just the gaberdine school mack and a red and white bobble hat to keep this nine year old dry. Shilts was still only 17 and was already a first team regular with Gordon Banks being sold to Stoke.

Who knows where Saints will be? If you look at our progression from 5 years ago compared to now I think we'll have good times. It's what they will be that is the big question Personally if all goes to plan, I'll be coming up 61 and retired from teaching. I still fully expect to be involved in working with young people and trying out some of the mythical cols in the Alps and Pyrenees on my bike. I have no intention of pandering to age.

Got it yet?

Good that you haven't been saddled with Xenon gear. Your white bartape will discolour quickly, why manufacturers do it I just don't know. Personal opinion only but I'd give the shop a call and see if they would swap it for black before delivery. The white looks mint but unfortunately only for a very short time. Very impracticable As for the sportives, you have certainly some good ones planned. I am aiming for one in April in somewhere around the Chilterns and the Jurassic Beast in May for my season starters. Not an expert by any means but if you need any advice there are a number on here who could help. Enjoy that new bike.

Good choice upgrading the wheels, but do upgrade tyres also, especially with the onset of autumn/winter. Maybe something like this. http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/schwalbe-durano-folding-road-bike-tyre/rp-prod91410?_$ja=tsid:46412|cgn:Schwalbe+-+Tyres|cn:Chain+Reaction-UK-PLA-PLA-All-DT-SE|kw:159161UK_Schwalbe+Durano+Folding+Road+Bike+Tyre&gclid=CLWnivG-pboCFU_HtAodWToAGQ I've used Schwalbe Ultremo DDs previously on the posh bike and they were pretty durable (if pricy) in the winter and have Conti Gatorskin Hardshells on the commuter. One thing worth considering is bit by bit upgrading the groupset probably starting with the rear mech (derailleur). The Xenon mech has a history of poor performance and durability and isn't produced any more. Upgrading to Veloce will cost around £55 and will give you much better performance. Consider going clipless also if you haven't already done so. You'll have to let us know which Sportives you are doing and how you get on in them.

I suspect Clyne is behind a fit Johnson, Walker and Jenkinson in the pecking order.

England are shocking

Happy new bike. It certainly is a head turner in it's celeste colour scheme. Here is a review. Enjoy. http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/tech/bikes/129311/10/1000-bike-test-2012.html

I think on the whole there is indifference to mass participation cycling events until it directly effects you. Round here the Hambleden Valley on the Berks/Bucks/Oxon border is frequently used for sportives and public tolerance for such events is declining. As someone who grew up around Fordingbridge I'd dearly love to ride in the forest like I did when I was a kid and we'd do Blissford Hill and the climb up Southampton Road on the B3078 for kicks. Happy days.

Seems like the forest NIMBYs have been at it again. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10720478.Mass_cycle_event_goes_on_despite_saboteurs_attack/?ref=mr http://road.cc/content/news/95986-saboteurs-target-new-forest-sportive-second-time-year.

Cheers. It is certainly more bike than I could ever do justice. I wouldn't dismiss aluminum though for real bangs for bucks. This looks like a huge amount of bike for under £1400 https://www.canyon.com/_en/roadbikes/bike.html?b=3236. Another German bike company worth looking at. http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/bike/rose-pro-rs-4400-604147/aid:604173. Both of these as sold, are lighter than my carbon Ridley and had I paid full whack for it around £700-£900 cheaper. A similarly priced Cube Agree GTC Pro would not be as well specced as these Tuetonic online competitors. Nice bike though.

Awesome looking frames, I agree and a real statement of individuality. The reality is however, that most of us go for the mass produced option because of cost, and you can still get good looking bikes in aluminium and carbon fibre. http://www.cyclechat.net/useralbums/ridley-with-vittoria-open-corsa-evo-ks-tyres.404/view This is my best bike, ubiquitous carbon no doubt, but with a very distinctive colour scheme reflecting the Flandrien origin of the manufacturers.