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That was my feeling, although i thought we'd only get 2 from out first 5; a point against Forest and lose the two away games, United loss and get squeeze a point at Dean Court.

A few weeks ago randomly on social media I came across a post by someone who suggested that Everton would get more points deducted this season than we would gain.

Clearly not working but replace with who though and indeed when?

Going on the comments here, we hate us too!

Yeah but that's what you've got to do these days

I’m sure you’ll get over it.

My take on JWP is that had he stayed last season Smallbone would have not got a look in at least not on a regular basis. I like Smallbone and kind of hoped he could kick on and become almost a natural replacement for JWP but there are sufficient question marks about his capacity to do do at this level. I like his late arrivals in the box last season and he ultimately did us proud in the play-offs, but Id swap in a heart beat for JWP.

First thing this morning my daughter messaged me. Can we go to see Oasis? Brit Pop came along when I was mid/late 30s around the time she was born. Whilst I get it, it was just background music to adulthood so it’s been something retrospective journey. Personally, now in my 60s I always appreciate finding gems that I missed in the past like Radiohead, the Manics and Richard Ashcroft/The Verve to name a few. I know there’s a lot I’ve missed out but they’re part of the exploration. Put simply, I can’t remember the last time I knowingly listened to Oasis as opposed to others I’ve mentioned so it’s a no from me.

Good point. Evidently they're about to get their pants pulled down by Arsenal. £30m for Nketiah, but they've got that sort of money, we don't.

I think we could get away with one as an occasional sub but both on for the majority of the game isn't going to work at this level.

I agree. Massive learning curve for all especially RM.

Its shite today. It wasn't shite on 26th May was it? Remember to change the bed before you go to sleep.

I suspect we both know that, does RM?

Macca's not a bad shot stopper, its his feet that are the issue.

It is worrying but not irredeemable, but he's going to have to get new players bedded in PDQ

I'm not sure what was expected. basically a Championship team in our current guise bar KWP. Even THB, Bedders, Flynn Downes marginal Premier League players at best. AA we know about and history may well repeat itself there. My expectations were not high, but as others say no-one gets relegated 2 games in.

Squad player at best, needs to adapt to this level, but given last season deserved his chance. Not taking it by all accounts.

Quick athletic players particularly up front this game was never going to be as easy as some hoped.

Did you really think it would be any other way?

Ah well, at least we had the Wembley day.

Worse than Saints v Forest under Nathan Jones?

Ipswich will finish above.us

Everyone nailing the solution that is needed. Just one of those days. Changing dynamic 10v11.