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I think we're going to need a new wild and wacky conspiracy theory from our correspondent in the dessert if we are going to break the fabled 100-pages-before-a-takeover marker or - I'm not sure any more. By the way, which way is up?

Lets just hope that RF wasn't the fit bird with the tanned legs that Dog saw.

Thank heavens the witch hunting has finished for today. I might even finish this sodding VAT return. By the way, does anybody have Barry Bearall's telephone number? Don't mention the war! I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1166881/Charles-Sale-England-stars-image-problem.html

Ahhh, good old Bing. The plot thickens...

Well done - that chap looks more likely to be the Begbies man than the Barclays fella (IMHO obviously) EDIT: I gave up looking about 30 minutes ago when an Epson C62 printer decided to spray it's cartridge over my desk and trousers*. Other than that everything is spiffing. *No, not him, my actual trousers...

Yeah I saw that, I was hoping to find out what his bio page said, which isn't in the Google cache sadly.

Forgot to add, Hudson has left Begbies for Baker Tilly http://www.accountancyage.com/accountancyage/news/2242923/hudson-leaves-begbies-baker Only one licensed IP with the surname Fry: http://www.insolvency-practitioners.org.uk/membersearch.aspx?s=Fry Unforutnately archive.org stopped archiving begbies-traynor.com in 2007 (at the website's request likely), otherwise we would have been able to look up Phil's link on there.

DLA Piper certainly sailed close to the wind. That much I do know: http://l2b.thelawyer.com/dla-piper-advises-on-administration-of-southampton-fc/1000287.article

I used to work for a company that had a lot of dealings with the Woolwich [building Society, then plc], including up to board level. When Woolwich was folded into Barclays we were unceremoniously dumped and the company eventually folded after a slow lingering death. I've never really cared what happened to the Woolwich bods after then but I've just noticed that one of them went on to form Barclays Capital Mortgage Servicing. Didn't have an awful lot to do with him, it was more his subordinate who I dealt with. At least someone did OK for themselves out of all this crud... They were quite enjoyable days though, thinking of that dump in Crayford they used to have to work in lol. Sorry I know this has nothing to do with Saints Oh except from the fact that I feel like I've indirectly had a double stuffing from Barclays over the last 5 years...

I don't think it has been confirmed anywhere that it was even £500k. I think it was a case of sloppy journalism at the time and everybody just accepted it. Everything I saw said "non-disclosed amount". Given the spin machine working at the time, I think they would have been repeatedly shoving that figure in our faces if it was genuine. If it was, say £100k, then they would keep that quiet because we'd all think they were cheapskates. Oh....

I see where you're coming from, but handled in the right way I don't think there would be any toy tossing. I'm not suggesting marching up there and banging on the door, obviously.

Fry is obviously going to be more desperate now than he was then. May be he even foolishly thought it was a seller's market to start off with? If it was me, I'd have been at least tried to tap up the Aviva and Barclays liaisons with or without Fry's consent.

Not forgetting that the Vet's surgery and the ice cream shop down the road are inextricably linked, so the ice cream shop get docked 10 points by the vetinary league.

Yeah I know, I wasn't having a go Nick Knock Knock Who's there? Rupert Rupert Who? Rupert my motor in the Itchen?

I think Fry's comment was a veiled threat - a kick up the butt to anybody else "waiting in the wings" (I hate that stupid phrase) to stop loitering and get their act together.

Oh, my sides... Nurse!!! Still it's better than: Knock Knock Who's there? Baliff Oh.

"My favourite waste of time" - Owen Paul

Little old lady who?

Any bidder with an ounce of sense will have direct contact with Barclays and Aviva though...

LOL, 70 ?! Take that Rupes I suppose it comes down to whethr Fry kept the subsidiaries out of admin for convenience or whether it was a play to try and escape the 10 points (thus increasing our value [allegedly, though I'm not convinced]). The subsidiaries must be in administration in all but name because their owner is controlled by the administrator. What strikes me though is that Fry is keen to avoid doing anything like "running a football club". We're left in a strange situation where we're supposed to believe that SLH, which is little more than SFC + SMS, is in administration, yet SFC and SMS are trading solvently. That cannot tally, surely! Anyway, I'm not even sure what I'm babbling on about any more so I'll shut up for now.

It's a tough call Phil. I would agree that on the face of it, the recent values mentioned are far too high. If Fry had put SFC in administration too (SFC frankly fits about any definition of insolvent you throw at it), would Fry have become open to accusations of deliberately devaluing the sale package? With hindsight it would have been simpler for all of us - you're right we would have been more likley to have completed by now. It really depends on what is legal guys told him I suppose. I realise from reading your posts that you have heard things (from the City?) that make you unhappy with Fry's performance but, personally, without those murmours I don't have any reason to lay into Fry at this stage. Anyway, I still don't see how Fry can/will decide the ST prices.

OK, here goes. In my opinion there are several factors at play. The administrator will not wish to restrict his potential buyers by effectively fixing their pricing structure and hence their business plan for them. He will take the view that it's not for him to get involved with this and if he c*cks the pricing up he could end up in big doo doo. Jones and Tointon are accountants and will surely be there just to attend to day to day administrative matters - nothing more. The other things I think are sticking points are that Fry will not be wanting to risk making a forward-looking viability statement, and he may not be able to provide adequate ring fencing to the season ticket money. We, as consumers, can't legally sign our consumer rights away. So, if a season ticket black hole is created and the company is wound up, BT could theoretically become liable to refund the missing ST money to ST holders. Not a game they will be entertaining I'd have thought. As for black and white laws, I have none, so this probably hasn't answered your question. By the way WTF were you doing buying a BBQ at Woolworth's ? Some links of interest: http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/4415333.CHERRIES__FANS__DISMAY_AT_SEASON_TICKET_DELAY/ http://www.atradius.co.uk/creditmanagementknowledge/iod-extras/dealing-with-insolvent-customers.html (Non-related info about administration and liquidation in general)

It would have to be my first game, at the age of 7ish, my Dad's company had some hospitality deal at the Dell. Frustratingly I can't remember who we played but I still have the program somewhere in the loft with signatures on it that we got from some of the players in the bar afterwards. I think the cover is a very young looking Benali. In second place would have to be the time we beat Man U for the second time in a row - 6-3 in '96? Ostenstad hat-trick if I remember?

"I'm fairly certain it won't break off if you do that"