hypochondriac

Throw out that filthy DEI Donald.

Hopefully it leads to just the right amount of hate towards the right type of people.

An awful lot to like about many of his executive orders.

Given that we've had Prevent investigations for all manner of things, it appears quite incredible that Radukabana was referred three times and it was deemed that intervention was not required. Seems there's a case to answer there about if the system is fit for purpose. Is Prevent turning a blind eye to certain types of extremism?

See above. This stuff was being pointed out since the start of this thread.

It was never close. Your attitude has no understanding of what extremist Islam is and why it's impossible to negotiate with it. Lighthouse was attempting to explain this over a year ago.

Exactly. There isn't a solution. Their children and grandchildren were already guaranteed to face more of the same. As you say they've reduced the threat for now which is about the best they could have done from their perspective.

What was the realistic alternative that would have ended the killing? There wasn't one. I feel like this is going round in circles constantly but Hamas are an islamic extremist organisation that want Israel to cease to exist. Their existence I their land is an affront to them and they will be satisfied when they are killed or at least no longer there. It is not possible to negotiate with terrorists such as this. Destroying Hamas and Hezbollah and preventing them from properly hurting you for a number of years is therefore the best policy albeit a very flawed one full of not great options. There will be many more deaths in the future regardless unfortunately but that's religious fundamentalism for you.

Powerful stuff. Sounds like they know what a woman is in America.

The face of evil if ever I saw one. Reminds me of this

As I said, you have no evidence that I see murderous acts as acceptable. There is no evidence for that claim so it is baseless. If you have evidence for it then produce it rather than trying to smear me. You're more like soggy than you care to admit - throwing around insults with nothing specific to back it up. Killing the likes of Hezbollah has crippled them for a generation. Let's hope that enough Hamas have been killed to do the same to them. The goal is to weaken them to such a degree that they cannot pose a credible threat for a long time. I certainly won't be unhappy if murderous terrorist scum are killed.

Another baseless claim. I never suggested the IDF should be the one throwing the hypothetical grenade, only that it would be a net positive if someone managed to do it. Maybe one of them could come to their senses and engage in some friendly fire. I stand staunchly for the eradication of extremist terrorists that seek to terrorise and murder and kidnap hostages. You agree that their actions are abhorrent so if they were taken out in the manner I describe presumably you wouldn't be upset about it. That's an awful lot of effort to go to if you're actually agreeing with me after all.

If you mentioned killing a group of Nigerian terrorists I wouldn't accuse you of wanting all Nigerians dead! Just the terrorist ones who hold innocent people hostage. See how it works? I'm not sure what you're finding difficult. You understand that kidnapping innocent people and commiting terrorist acts is a bad thing yes?

Yes I mentioned a group of Muslims. I didn't say all Muslims. Do you have difficulty reading? I'd quite happily see all those evil bastards who terrorise women and hold innocent people hostages put to death. Presumably you'd also be defending adebalajo in the same manner.

LMAO. No it wasn't. If anything it was too mild. Show me where I mentioned all Muslims? Painful slow deaths to all who kidnap innocent people, hold them in captivity for over a year and commit terrorist acts like these evil cowards. What's disgraceful is thinking that comment is in any way disgraceful and seemingly it sounds like you're defending them.

I didn't mention Muslims. You did. I was talking about the terrorist scum in the video clip.

Animalistic terrorist scum. Let's hope someone let's off a live grenade in the middle of them and they all get blown to bits.

Great to see pictures of the returned hostages looking relatively well given what they've been through. They need the others out as well but this is a good start.

People replying to me don't know the lore.

Hardly the worst crime in the world. I'm sure he won't get a custodial sentence.

Thunder foot has hated him for years. It's been something of a vendetta.

If true that is good news and I hope it comes to pass. I of course want Labour to succeed because I want Britain to succeed.

Cheers for the response. What I would want to happen now is for the recommendations of the wider review to be implemented as soon as feasibly possible, then at the same time we can have an enquiry about this specific subset of child sexual abuse which seems quite specific and separate from the wider issue. If they're going to wait to implement anything before a wider enquiry then I agree that's stupid and there would be no need to. I can't see how further recommendations about the specifics of this issue would be likely to contradict what has already been implemented and where it may emphasise what has already been recommended, there is no harm in getting that implementation process underway. It's genuinely not an anti Muslim thing, I didn't pay a lot of attention to the specifics of this and I actually felt quite sick reading this a few weeks ago and understanding the extent of it. There's been a multitude of failings but there's undeniably a specific cultural issue here that has been largely buried and pushed away for fear of racism and actually this very real injustice is likely to make the problem of racism a lot worse if it isn't addressed. You would expect that reasonable people from the same communities would be equally disgusted by this and want to root it out from their societies. I'm sure that the average Pakistani Muslim has no desire to be associated with filth like this.

How many of the recommendations from the previous child sex enquiry (which had very little to do with rape gangs) focused on the specific issues from so called grooming gangs? Things like the networks of largely Pakistani heritage men passing victims around, the racial abuse the girls suffered which gives an insight into the motivations for the attacks, the nervousness police had about being seen as racist so that nothing was done, the way the girls were dismissed as slags or similar by police chiefs and those in authority? The way that councils were being run with block voting to ensure cover ups continued and the way that some communities closed ranks to protect their own? How many of the existing recommendations address these issues to the extent that we can have confidence that something on this scale cannot happen again?

That consideration is what has caused half the problems in the first place. Now that those in charge has admitted that there is an issue with rape gangs of Pakistani Heritage, there has to be an investigation that establishes the extent of the problem, the cultural issues that have led to this problem, how much of the problem has been fuelled by animus towards females of another race etc etc. We need an unvarnished and unbiased investigation or it fails the victims and potentially creates future victims. Having an investigation of this type whilst implementing the recommendations of the broader investigation regarding child sexual abuse should not be difficult to do. It should cause no delay at all. Regarding blame, it's more about accountability. There are names of council members and politicians who turned a blind eye and have simply moved elsewhere with promotions or with nothing attached to them. Rather like the Post Office, a full enquiry will partly be about holding these people accountable and getting some justice for the victims where many guilty parties have still not been brought to justice.