hypochondriac

why?

Bloody Wigan now. You sure it's on?

Yawn. When is he on?

It will be important to note though if it is Lowe putting us into admin or if we are forced into it.

Steve I am interested to know, what would you like to happen with the club say between now and the summer? Realistic obviously, not the 3 of them working together or some mystery investor.

You know I think I agree with you. I'm still struggling to make out what he has done so wrong as to be assosciated with Wilde and Lowe. So far he lost his temper at the AGM and made a mistake which he owned up to and rectified before it was too late. I would trust him and he is the best of the three. He should be in charge.

Gash I liked that place!

The problem with Lowe's strategy is by promoting the youth policy we are really restricting ourselves in the transfer market, something we can't afford to do under our financial situation.

If that's the case then most certainly yes. Admin would be a ***** but we need a fresh start.

We will probably go into admin sometime in the next few years anyway. I just reckon Lowe will be forced o leave regardless of the finances. He just won't be able to stay on in the face of increasing protests.

Maybe start a new thread?

Nope. Regardless of administration, I can't see Lowe being able to stay on longer than this season. The fans won't allow it and the protests will get louder and longer as this continues. It will get to a point where he will simply not be able to ignore it. It's inevitable.

I believe if it was a choice between say selling his shares to leon and backers or voluntary admin he would choose admin. That sort of attitude is worrying

Don't be so bloody melodramatic. FFS I wonder what people are on sometimes.

Right so because he did not shout about his plans as a "revolutionary coaching setup" he suddenly did not have one? How do you create that logic? We only knew about Lowe's "plan" because he used it as spin on the OS as justification for getting rid of Pearson and starting this ridiculous campaign of buyin g and playing youth players. It seemed obvious to me that Crouch would have stuck with Pearson, removed the relevant players to trim the wage bill and brought in experienced yet cheap pros mixed with some of the talented youth players we already had at our disposal.

Again I ask you why. With Pearson and Crouch at the helm this season I firmly believe we would be mid-table (and certainly not in the position we are in now.) That would be a success IMO.

I really liked Pearson and yes I did think we was very good for us. When he came in confidence was terribly dented and it was obvious that it would take time to turn things around and getting people to play his way. The problem was we didn't have much time. By the end of the season there were real signs that we would turn the corner for the next year. There was real fight at the WBA and Sheffield United games like the saints of old. Most importantly, almost all the fans who attended games were fully supportive and behind the manager. It was great to hear the chants for Pearson after the pitch invasion. I felt a real unity and togetherness that others have told me they also felt. Things like this would have made a real difference and contributed to this season had we kept Crouch and Pearson in charge.

If we go down I think we will look back and say getting rid of John was one of the big contributing factors.

Hmmm. According to reports he was fully supported by a number of people there? I wasn't there so can't say for sure. I think everyone (or most) can admit to losing it over the decisions Lowe is making which is killing the club

In fairness to Leon, he did rectify that mistake and unlike Lowe managed to make it a success.

Agreed.

So far the only thing people have said is that he loaned out Skacel and Rasiak on the last day. I would agree with that but it's a relatively minor mistake IMO. I just want to dispell the myth that he was totally irresponsible. I just can't find anything to back this up and many unsubstantiated things written about him on here appear to have beccome fact for some.

No. I said everything he is accused of were actually things that he had no control over (they happened when Hone and Hoos were in charge and not himself.)

Leon is often slagged off on here and he has just been described as "out of his depth" when he was in charge. I would be interested to know what evidence there is to support this? I have heard that he actually had the support of the banks whilst he was here and it was he who proposed closing the corners so he clearly had a cost cutting plan. He is the most successful out of Lowe And Wilde and is also a fan (could be hampering but I'd like to see the evidence of things he has done wrong.) It seems that every bad thing he is accused of doing actually happened when Hone and Hoos effectively had control in the board room. Is it true that he actually opposed Euell's signing? So come on everyone who has slagged Crouch off, what has he actually done?