hypochondriac

Precisely this. It's never ever been about all Muslims. I have Muslims in my family who are wonderful people. The problem is that the Islamic faith for whatever reason has a comparatively high number of nutters who follow it and it has some backwards views that some of its followers slavishly follow.

@sadoldgitI

Anyone else listen to the speech by JD Vance? His general points about clamping down on freedom of speech, paying more for defence and leaders not listening to the public about immigration were well made I thought and very difficult to dispute.

When it turns out that it was a terrorist act, will you return on this thread and apologise?

#bekind

Wow she got sacked by hbos. She may cling on but this has got to be difficult to survive.

You could say it for another three years. It doesn't make it less true as by far the most likely scenario.

The method of killing is also a fact. Probably best not responding to me then about "what the issue was previously" when that wasn't what the issue was previously at all. Method of criminality can in some cases be as much of an indicator as nationality that's just a fact and you can't view an assumption drawn from one as reasonable yet see an assumption drawn from the other as bigoted. As usual you make little logical sense.

In many cases, the actions of the perpetrator and how the offence is committed is as much a decent indicator of the motives as their nationality. You've previously stated that when the facts are known they can be discussed. So have you changed your stance on when a reasonable assumption can be made? You've also accused me of being too quick to blame Muslims. Is it now acceptable to state that this is more likely than not to have been a radical Islamist attack?

Heaven forbid that you make a prediction based on what the most likely motive is.

It certainly doesn't help with the perception that most of them are largely the same type of people. Politicians I mean.

Indeed. Why on earth should someone lose their job over a random accusation? Suspend them if necessary.

Israel currently demanding that Hamas release their hostages as agreed by Saturday or they will resume fighting. As usual, the ball is in Hamas' court regarding what happens next.

What a bizarre post to respond to after 6 months.

U secretary general has told Hamas to proceed with the deal as planned.

Indeed very unfortunate but sadly not unsurprising.

Agreed. Quite pathetic for aintforever to suggest an equivalence when we have established that one does not exist. Glad it's clear.

Just as long as you agree that there is no equivalence. Aintforever seems to think there is one but I'm glad to see you disagree.

Where is my unique definition? All I've said is that there is not an equivalence between Hamas and Israel.

Ukraine have killed some innocent people too. Is there an equivalence between Ukraine and Russia?

There's no equivalence between Hamas and Israel.

Two wrongs implies an equivalence. There is none.

Hardly a surprise is it.

Oh right and you never held the Conservative party responsible for anything they did during their terms in office.

Of course they can. I haven't said otherwise. All I've said is that you can't oppose capital punishment because you are opposed to the state ending a life and then support a different measure that amounts to the state ending a life. The reason I do not oppose capital punishment in certain circumstances has nothing to do with my opinion on the state being involved with ending lives so it isn't the same thing. How is that difficult for you to grasp?