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As stated in another thread, the Chinese people I allude to are my family. My nephew was racially abused in his workplace by a cretinous knuckle-dragger who used the same term, just last week. I'll be sure to tell him that some old white man on an internet forum says that he has no right to be offended.

HTH. https://lmgtfy.com/?q=Is+the+term+chinaman+racist&s=g&iie=1

My post was quite clear. I didn't say that I consider you to be a racist. I stated that you had used racist language. When I pointed out that your choice of language was offensive, you used the popular right-wing trope "snowflake" as a means of insulting me. If you read back through our exchanges, you will note that I have remained polite and have not resorted to name-calling or insults, despite the fact that your language is offensive to my family. I have even invited you to join me and my family to discuss how racism impacts Asian people living in the UK, whereas you've been sarcastic, unnecessarily rude and personally abusive. There's nothing wrong with admitting that you made a mistake, learning from it, and endeavouring not to make the same error in future. In fact, that attitude is highly commendable, but increasingly rare these days. Ah well, all the best Crab Lungs.

From the link I posted, citing several dictionaries, as well as studies on the subject. HTH. "The term Chinaman is described as being offensive in most modern dictionaries and studies of usage.[27] It is not, however, as offensive as chink.[28] The New Fowler's Modern English Usage considers Chinaman to have a "derogatory edge",[29] The Cambridge Guide to English Usage describes it as having "derogatory overtones",[28] and Philip Herbst's reference work The Color of Words notes that it may be "taken as patronizing".[30] This distinguishes it from similar ethnic names such as Englishman and Irishman, which are not used pejoratively.[30]"

I don't know you so I am unable to make that call. However, you have used a racist pejorative in a public forum. And you have chosen to insult me for pointing out that your language is offensive.

In answer to JRM's question, yes, the term "chinaman" IS racist. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinaman_(term) Crab Lungs, you could have made your point without using the pejorative, the fact that that you chose to include it makes your intent quite clear. I don't want to be offended. But you clearly want to offend me for calling you out, which is why you have resorted to name calling. My wife is Chinese. My kids are mixed race. My nephew was called a "chinaman" at work last week by an angry customer. The word was used as a racist insult. The lad is 22 and was really upset. Does that make him a "snowflake" too? I'm not your pal, but I am perfectly happy for you to meet my family and learn first hand how hurtful racist abuse can be, and how it can impact a young person's mental health.

This is racism. It's ugly, and has no place in public discourse.

Being upset about the state of a football club does not give one the right to use the personally abusive moniker "fat Kat" or racist term "chinaman" (another thread).

I know it's a bit 'tin foil hat' but I can't help thinking that the players threw that game. Bertrand is a Champion's League winner and England international, but that unnecessary high challenge was amateurish and a red card was almost inevitable. Yoshida has almost 100 international appearances, and yet he looked like a Sunday league player; when defending crosses he was allowing strikers in behind him, jumping under the ball etc. Compare and contrast with the victory against the skates. Forget the opposition for a second, and examine the performance. The team were resolutely professional. Last night beggared belief. I simply cannot accept that the same group of players can turn in two such contrasting performances in just a few short weeks. Such a rapid decline doesn't make sense. Such an unprofessional performance by experienced professionals doesn't make sense. Unless of course, it's deliberate. Post game, the manager said he was responsible. And the Captain said the players were responsible, whilst alluding to something behind the scenes, that he was unable to discuss. So what's going on? Has war broken out between KL and Gao? Have the players picked a side? Was last night's unprofessional performance the players sending a message to Gao? Or has war broken out between some of the senior players and the manager? Rest assured, there's more to this than meets the eye.

If bad grammar were a capital offence etc.

GAOUT NOW!!!

Rodan - Juicy Lucy This belter is definitely the best track from Rodan's self titled 1974 long player. That said, the whole album is absolutely first class and well worth a listen. It's pigeon holed as progressive but has more in common with Bakerloo and The Greatest Show On Earth (both part of the Harvest Records stable) than with Pink Floyd. As far as I'm aware, the members of the band never recorded anything else, neither collectively nor individually. I've no idea why that's the case, but I can't help feeling that it's a shame It's incredibly rare, with only 200 copies pressed and bizarrely, there has been never been a reissue, neither vinyl nor digital. As a consequence it now regularly changes hands for over £500. http:// Sent via Telepot Contact @ 9pm GMT

Youtube seems to have legitimate highlights straight after the game this season. Sent via Telepot Contact @ 9pm GMT

James Macon - Jimi's Guitar Raps With The Bass Sent via Telepot Contact @ 9pm GMT

Travis Biggs - Tibetan Serenity Sent via Telepot Contact @ 9pm GMT

Johnny "Hammond" Smith - Star Borne https://youtu.be/qWpzCPAGCH4 Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

This is one of the nastiest threads that I've see on here in quite some time. Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

That's quite a leftfield choice Chez. I glad you shied away from the AEC RT or RM options, way too obvious! An Olympian or an Atlantean would be viable alternatives to your Titan. However, I'd plump for a Bristol; either a VR or preferably a Lodekka. Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

The same could be said of HAL 9000, and look how that turned out... Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

I didn't think it necessary to mention the universally acknowledged fact that Alan Ball wasn't a Saints player when he received his medal, but, as the forum's 'crushing bore in residence', you obviously did. So I shall return the favour, and point out, as per my original post, that Terry Paine didn't actually play in the final, whereas Messrs Soares and Fonte did. Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

A lot of people are slating Cédric Soares in this thread, but it should be remembered that he has played in and won a European Championship final. In the pantheon of great Southampton players, only Alan Ball's World Cup winners medal trumps Cédric's achievement (and José Fonte's) so how about we all afford him the respect that he is due. He's been a good servant of the club, a true professional and nothing short of an absolute gentleman. These petty and disparaging comments from certain elements within our fanbase are embarrassing in the extreme. Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

Apologies, it seems S-Clarke was the only person who didn't know about Clyne's alleged proclivity for the chang. Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk