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If its not the same question then why use Gerrard and Milner as an example. Lambert has not been getting rave reviews from "every manager in other leagues" its been reported that one manager in top flight thinks he might be worth a punt as an impact subsitute and a few in the CCC might fancy him.

From a selfish point of view i did because i wanted to be proved right, that Beattie was not, never was, never will be an international player. That said he deserved his chance, because he scored 20+ goal IN TOP FLIGHT which is the difference. Lambert has never even played at the league above let alone two above.

"Now would you rather have a mediocre Steven Gerrard in CM or James Milner thats been in amazing form?" The difference being both are proven top flight players. Who would you rather have in your team, a mediocre Steven Gerrard or a Dean Hammond in amazing form? That is more of a comparison.

Not when said player is clearly not of an international standard. I said this about Beattie too, when Saints fans on the old forum where hailing Beattie as a pontential Geoff Hurst for the 2004 Euros i said he is not an international player and so it proved, he was shocking when he played for England and clearly out of his depth.

Arrogance being knowing what i am talking about then. I suggest you start restructuring grassroots football with grasping the basic concept that the best players generally play in the best leagues and become internationals.

And i've seen some of yours, your point being?

**** me no wonder the game in this country is in such a mess at grass roots level when there are people as clueless as you involved in it.

Ultimately, i cant believe that people call themselves fans when they only go to big games.

some more, from Rupes... “The whole experience of relegation and the aftermath has been very hard to take but I do believe things are now looking up.” The purpose of developing the best academy in the country is not to sell scholars to larger clubs.” “In George and Clive we have got a management team of undoubted quality with strengths in complementary areas, who share the same vision and give us the best chance of returning to the Premier League in the shortest possible time.”

Yeah, that'd be lovely, we could stop for a cream tea, go and look in the window of some of the trinket shops in Lyndhurst, much better than going to support the team i proffessed my undying love for on sunday.

Worth getting a travel card if you are doing the journey most saturdays then isn't it. http://www.railcard.co.uk/network In just four home games the card pays for itself, for the other 19 home games of the season you are efficently getting 4 of them free with the amount you are saving on the cost of transport with your travel card. See, solution to every problem/excuse.

i agree, maybe a more appropriate song for Wembley on sunday would have been "stand up if you love the saints when there is a big games but cant be bother to get of my arse the rest of the time"

Using that logic if we were born in Litchenstein then you or I would have a great chance of being a profesional footballer, population of 35,000, half of them women, gives a pool of 17k men to choose from, probably only half of the suitable age to be footballer, f'k it, i'm going to apply for residency.

Obviously going for a walk in the new forest is more entertaining than seeing the team you stood up and claimed to love on sundays frantic push for promotion.

I did. I just hope by that comment though that you mean there is more chance of osama bin laden sh**ing in the queens handbag than Rickie Lambert playing for England

What i'd rather is that people supported the club and went to watch saints rather than the occasion or the other team.

No, i said 5000 from outside a 50 miles radius of Southampton, both Weymouth and Andover are in this zone.

Yeah there is, its called jumping on the bandwagon and being a plastic fan. Do they support Saints or the occasion, and at the "big" games, Pompey, Leeds etc which team are they going to watch? As i say, not everyone can or wants to go every week, but you'd expect all these people that had such a "whoop whoop day, OMG wemberlee was soooo amazin' lol!! " to get off there arse at least a handful of times a season and go now and again. I bet these sames ones who didn't watch the last five years of dross but would expect a ticket for the play off finals and be moaning about all the corporate tickets if they cant get one.

so are you saying the 30,000 fans that were at Wembley that dont go regularly/at all all work in the retail sector?

smae could be said for sundays, didn't hear many people citing work commitments as a reason they couldn't go on sunday.

Good man, she should expect to drive anyway, i mean why else would a woman be allowed to go to football?

smal point but only two of those players were Redknapp signings. Makes you wonder though doesn't it, if Lowe had not been such a tightarse and let Redknapp sign who he wanted then i think he would have kept us up. It waas obvious that team wasn't good enough from the first day of the season.

With all john Terrys problems off the field how about giving Chris Perry a go at Centre back? His experience could prove vital in a world cup semi final.

Why should it? Billy Sharp has started banging them in recently in the CCC, should he be calld up too? What about Pitman for Bournemouth he has had a good season? Do you you seriously think if David Beckham, a player who has played for three of the worlds biggest clubs, won every domestic trophy there is to win and over 100 England caps, was told to play in on of the top European leagues or he wouldn't be picked then a league one striker is going to be on Capellos thoughts?

relatively poor from any generation of players, Keith Curle and Geoff Thomas in particular where particularly appalling. Some people seriously though we'd win Sweden 92, is it any wonder we only scored once and didn't win a game. A 17 year old kid who had never played in top flight being picked for the England world cup squad? Think you're right though, a third division striker unproven at any level higher than that league playing in a world cup for a supposed top football nation would be particularly bizarre.