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Dont forget to wave your flags, sing "stand up if you love the saints" and buy a programme so you can check the names of Number 7, Number 2, number 14 and ask the guy next to you if Lambert is so good why doesn't he play for England?

i'll pick you about about 12 so we avoid the traffic of all those fools going a pointless game at St Marys, its only Orient, why bother? If we were playing Manchester United i'd go as i'd love to see Rooney and Berbatov tear us apart whilst pretending i am a saints fan. We can drive into Lyndurst, look at the Ferrari and Massarati garage, drive along into Brockenhurst and go for a walk round the village, there is a nice little tea shop we can have cream, jam, scones and a pot of tea, then if we time it right we can get back into Southampton to see all those fools that have just wasted £22 on watching us fail to beat a midtable league 1 side 25-0. Dont forget to log straight onto the fourm to join in the debate on how **** we are.

Dont be so arrogant Justin C, tic tac, a 19 year old coach of an under 8's team and has done a refeering course, is on a mission to restructure football from grass roots up and part of his grand plan is that any player on form in any league should be given a run out in international friendlies. That is a major reason why Brazil have been the world champions 5 (?) times and England have always failed at international level. They have a history of picking players from the Brazilian 3rd tier and putting them in the international side after a decent run of games, didn't you know? People like us that arrogantly think we know it all and that those that dont agree with us know nothing about football are also part of the reason for the lack of success of the English national team.

well, being a woman i will bow to your superior knowledge on what does and doesn't get lost in the wash. This doesn't explain the white bits, or the reason for them though, do tell.....:confused:

apparantly so.... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=21160 we are yet to be furnished with the real reason. I am desperate to know, i notice Antonio played well sunday but not so well tonight, do you think the red socks could be the reason?

Come on Lady saint, two in full red socks, one with a bit of white on them, whats going on???!!

well based on this thread we are ****ed as most of our squad are in form and about to be called up, well if tic tak has his way in his restructuring of football from grass roots up.

Hammond has scored tonight, Gerrard hasn't, i know which one should be picked for the next England squad based on their form over the last 45 minutes. Are you watching fabio???

Both times i have seen up play Norwich this season he has struggled against Gary Docherty, a Centre half who i rate alongside Fonte & Kisnorbo as the best in this league and would be one of the better ones on the CCC

Well Alan Pardew seems to think he could cut it in the premier league, so i will bow to his superior knowledge on that score. He certainly didn't look out of his depth against a poor Pompey side. IMO he does lack pace, but he is strong, has a good first touch, powerful, a great shot on him and a good footballing brain, so I think he could maybe be a squad player at a premier league side but i dont think he'd be regular first 11 material. In that league it would be a physical side that he would fit in best, funnily enough looking at Zlatan Ibrahimovic last night you could draw comparisions with Lambert playing for a footballing side like Arsenal, ZI is a big, strong striker and doesn't suit Barca's style of play, what he does give them though is something a bit different from when they had Henry, Eto etc in the squad, so maybe there is room for RL at a football side?

He probably does, as given his logic of sticking in players that are in form at any level and giving them a chance a few of his under 8's might be on the verge of an England call up if they can bang in a couple of goals this weekend.

FFS dont start using the no preseason excuse again. Everyone knows that winning our first trophy in 34 years and an upper mid table finish with a team constructed during the season is not acceptable.

I dont look forward to those days, i hate games like that with people like said guy next to me. 1/ because you get all the plastic super fans there who go to big games 2/ because the chances of us winnning are smaller and 3/ for clubs like saints who realistically best we can do is top half of the table finish our biggest games, ie six pointers in any league are games against those around us.

So where do you draw the line? Should Matt Tubbs at Salisbury be given the chance, he's proven he can stick the ball in the net in non league, why not give him a run out for England to see if he can do it. Everytime a player in any league hits a bit of form should they be called up? I hope you weren't one of the people that moaned that Sven Goran Erikson made a mockery of friendlies by playing so many players.

If its not the same question then why use Gerrard and Milner as an example. Lambert has not been getting rave reviews from "every manager in other leagues" its been reported that one manager in top flight thinks he might be worth a punt as an impact subsitute and a few in the CCC might fancy him.

From a selfish point of view i did because i wanted to be proved right, that Beattie was not, never was, never will be an international player. That said he deserved his chance, because he scored 20+ goal IN TOP FLIGHT which is the difference. Lambert has never even played at the league above let alone two above.

"Now would you rather have a mediocre Steven Gerrard in CM or James Milner thats been in amazing form?" The difference being both are proven top flight players. Who would you rather have in your team, a mediocre Steven Gerrard or a Dean Hammond in amazing form? That is more of a comparison.

Not when said player is clearly not of an international standard. I said this about Beattie too, when Saints fans on the old forum where hailing Beattie as a pontential Geoff Hurst for the 2004 Euros i said he is not an international player and so it proved, he was shocking when he played for England and clearly out of his depth.

Arrogance being knowing what i am talking about then. I suggest you start restructuring grassroots football with grasping the basic concept that the best players generally play in the best leagues and become internationals.

And i've seen some of yours, your point being?

**** me no wonder the game in this country is in such a mess at grass roots level when there are people as clueless as you involved in it.

Ultimately, i cant believe that people call themselves fans when they only go to big games.

some more, from Rupes... “The whole experience of relegation and the aftermath has been very hard to take but I do believe things are now looking up.” The purpose of developing the best academy in the country is not to sell scholars to larger clubs.” “In George and Clive we have got a management team of undoubted quality with strengths in complementary areas, who share the same vision and give us the best chance of returning to the Premier League in the shortest possible time.”

Yeah, that'd be lovely, we could stop for a cream tea, go and look in the window of some of the trinket shops in Lyndhurst, much better than going to support the team i proffessed my undying love for on sunday.