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http://www.thestar.co.uk/rotherham/Paedophile39s-jail-sentence-cut.5915215.jp?CommentPage=1&CommentPageLength=10 First case i found when looking at it, so didn't have to look to hard. 2nd time the guy had been convicted of sex crimes yet 2 years for a second conviction for the same thing was deemed to much and the sentance was reduced to 18 months. They are on about 2 years for the supposed riot at Freeborne Garage where a couple of people threw stones and rattled fences. Is that right in your eyes TDD?

and the point is that people spend less time in jail for being a peodophille than they do for throwing a punch at football. Is that right?

it isn't welcome, of course it isn't, but it happens. I just dont understand the logic from the police behind letting it happen, i thought they were there to prevent trouble not almost encourage it. The police dont let known peadophiles hang around outside school gates, do nothing except videoing them, let them do what they like and then nick them a few weeks later once they've committed an offence do they.

The amount of Pious, self righteous ****s on here never ceases to amaze me. It was a local derby, tensions run high and people do things they wouldn't normally do. At the end of the day the OB are there to prevent disorder and at no other derby anywhere else in the country would they let home and away fans out together. The OB ****ed up or let it happen, end of, they know it and now they want to prove a point by ****ing over some soft targets. You can go anywhere in the world, Roma v Lazio, Boca Juniors v river Plate, Inter v AC, Barc v Real Mardrid, Ajax v Feyenoord, i could go on and you'll get both sets of fans hating each other and wanting a row, thats football, its tribal, is passionate and at times is hostile and violent, its might not be right but that is how it is and that is what makes football the worlds greatest game. Say all you like about people having the choice to do what they want and take responsibilty for their actions etc and yes they do, but if any of you self rigteous cu*ts slating have lot have ever been to a football match and not shown any amount of passion, vitrol or aggression towards the away fans, players or referee especially in a game that means alot, then you are not a proper football fan. Yes the ones that throw things, or did what ever they did may have overstepped the mark, but did they do any worse than you or I wanted to do that day? did they ****, i think some people need to get off their high horse and see the legal system for what it is, a ****ing disgrace that is more interested in headline news than catching real criminals, lets face it, if we hadn't had anyone nicked for events on the 13th of Feb, if there had been no TV programme, echo headlines on no less thean 5 occasions would we still be talking about it? Of course we ****ing wouldn't, thats how much in the public interest this whole farcial affair is, iy sells papers, it makes good TV, it get people talking and it its gets the OB slapping themselves on the back with what a good job they are doing, meanwhile, nonces are roaming the streets, people are being stabbed every weekend and if you haven't been burgeled then you are one of the lucky ones, the legal system in this country is a ****ing joke.

If you saw Antonio earlier this season people will realise how much he has come, he really hasd developed since he has been with us and at his age can only continue to improve and if he is out of contract at Reading available for nowt so a steal. Papa is decent, clearly loves it here but it depends on £££, if they want £250k+ IMO there is better available. i like him think he has done well but depends on how much Fiorentina want for him, hopefully the deal will include a friendly out there as i'd love an excuse to visit Florence.

You obviously dont know anything about football then.

Some might call it an establishment fit up JRM, they think they've got them.

Spot on.

no it isn't stupid at all. derby game, home fans angry due to being turned over in a game we could and probably should have won. Tensions run high, letting fans out into the streets at the same time is in my opinion, asking for trouble, regardless of what people say about having a choice got a derby anywhere in the country or world and there are always going to be people up for a ruck, like it or not. Common sense says keep them in until the areas immediately around the ground are clear, like we are kept in at Fratton Park. Personally i think that the reason for all this is 1/ the OB let it happen in an attempt to get some bans put on know 'risk element' or 2/ They ****ed up in doing what they did and know they did and are now trying to cover their arses in allowing a flash point to happen.

They have been charged with violent disorder, the maximum sentance is 5 years.

:smt120 Anyone that thinks those boys deserve to even been banged up for their "violence" lives on a different planet. Such a thing as punishment fitting the crime.

Since january transfer window shut so Pardew had his team in place in the league played 16 Won 10 drew 4 lost 2 pts 34 Championship winnning form. whats not consistant about that?

I do own a stone island jumper yes, not because when i put it on i feel invicible like an invisible forcefield of hardness has encapulated me, but because i liked the jumper in the shop. I also own other labels as well that you might call "casual", bought them not so people would think i am hard though, simply because i liked them, does that make me one of the wannabe SI brigade? What trainers do you wear then if addidas retro ones are rubbish? Bet you're a K Swiss man...

Do you wear a saints shirt?

That is not the point though, a drunken group of football fans standing on a platform singing and shouting would look intmidating to an 85 year old woman. I bet there were no members of the public within 30 yards of them, no, they were keeping their distance, as you can see from the video links. The other point is that this lot may well have been having fun, but i seem to remember during the summer a group of saints fans went down to Weymouth to celebrate the life of a friend of theirs who had sadly passed away and did no more than this little lot, in fact probably less, a few beers, bit of a sing song and they were villified as thugs and knuckle draggers. What's the difference? Why when some people act a certain way is it crazy fun with everyone have a right old laugh but when its others doing the same thing they are thugs and an embarassment to their club?

you are quite right, we did, not sure why it never happened, what a team that would have been, we were a player short of being a championship winning side during the 81-84 period.

Me too, but it depends on your persepective, some locals or none football fans might have been intimidated by a group of drunken people singing football songs and jumping about, some of the gentleman are quite big guys and a few shaven heads in there too so could have appeared quite an intimidating bunch. I know when other groups have behaved in the same way they have been chastised as being a disgrace for doing this very same thing, you cant have one rule for one and one for another.

I dont, that is why i asked, i want to know what the TSF superstars have to say on the subject.

this one, disallowed for offside against Armstrong i think, what a joke.

two things that stand out about that goal are firstly the speed off passing and movement, the Liverpool players are putting the saints players under loads of pressure but every pass is spot on, quick, and movement first class again what was the best team in Europe, if not the world at that time. Also look at David Armstrongs contribution, he starts the move off on the edge of his own penalty area and then turns up on the edge of the Liverpool area to overhead kick to Keegan, a great great goal.

hilarious, how long did it take you to think that one up?

What a crazy, wacky bunch, that lot really know how to enjoy themselves. One thing i should ask is if that had been a group of young lads wearing "casual" gear and not TSF superstars, doing exactly the same thing, standing on a station platform in a large group drunk, singing and shouting, would they be chastised as an emabrassment to the club and intimidating locals or would they to be crazy fans having a great time?

no it itsn't, the only reason we "hated" Tottenham was due to the Glen Hoddle thing, it was a totally pointless, ********, manufacturered rivalry which lasted about a season after Hoddle went. There has never really been any rivalry between us apart from that and the fact they now got HR as manager.

they hate us and assume we hate them, but they are nothing to us, purely a geographical thing, kind of like Hartlepool hating Newcastle but Newcastle only fussed by Sunderland geograpically, nothing to us, that said though looking forward to the south coast derby next season with them, also enjoy the local rivalries with Swindon & Brighton.