Barry the Badger

If we owe money to the Inland Revenue and we can't clear it in one go we won't get a CVA and will be deducted a further 15. If we don't owe money to them we should be ok. Nobody seems sure if we do or not. Luton got deducted further points for not sticking to the rules re agents payments so we just have to hope there has not been any creative accounting going on.

JustMike. I do agree that Stockport have exposed a sort of loophole but as I said the line has to be drawn somewhere. By your logic, Bournemouth's penalty has not affected their league status so have they really been 'punished' either?. If we finish next season in mid table obscurity but more than 10 points off the playoffs it could be said that we wont really have been punished.

Please no. If ever proof were needed that he can't motivate a team it was the Burnley game where we played with a real spark because the players were actually motivated (by the situation rather than wotte). It showed up how un-motivated they have been all season.

But then that opens it up to the same problems, teams who are already down or already safe taking admin so the penalty is less of a punishment.

Tired of this. Bring on next season.

Personally I think fair play to Stockport for getting themselves to a position where they can take the 10 point hit and stay up. The whole 10 point penalty rule is ****e, but it is what it is.

There are definitely issues like the one you've pointed out. It's all a bit of a mess. If you use the logic of saying well Stockport haven't really been punished you could use the same logic for Bournemouth since they haven't gone down with the -17... The line has to be drawn somewhere. If we could have picked up enough points to be 10 clear of the bottom 3 we could have safely gone into admin too.

The rule is... Before the deadline it's this season no matter what. After the deadline it's held until the end of the season...Then if you finish bottom 3 it's carried over but if you don't it's applied in the current season. I think it was written like that to close the Leeds / Boston loophole.

The penalty always applies in the current season, unless you are going down anyway in which case it carries over.

Whatever I think of the Football League, they aren't that stupid.

He didn't vote.

I would welcome that. But he is not the man to have in charge of the first team in L1 in my opinion.

Did you get bored waiting for somebody else to join in Master Bates? Thats what normally happens to me at SMS.

I looked over Woolston and what did I see Coming for to carry me home?

Rubbish. We have plenty to be proud of. We were in the top flight for nearly 30 years with a 15'000 seater stadium. That makes me bloody proud. Also, most clubs will never even get to a cup final let alone win one. Head up.

Anybody who has played football to any level knows that if a team is constantly chopping and changing, if you're playing with different players alongside you each week, it is very hard to show your full quality. There is no understanding amongst team mates and it's very hard work. That is part of the reason that so many of our players have not lived up to expectation these last two years. Maybe they should have dealt better with it but the effect of the constant messing around with the team cannot be underestimated.

We weren't getting the coverage until administration hit.

It came from derry one or two pages back, although he was pretty cryptic about it, he seemed pretty certain that it was one of the options. I dunno, I'm just latching onto anything to stop me from going mad waiting, even though I know it's mostly guesswork. Our club is on the brink and all I can do is sit and read this thread and hope some of it might have an ounce of truth to it...

No, his critics have not "merely said he's been very poor this season". Many have said he's a waste of space and will not go on to achieve anything, they are wrong IMO.

Being a Saints fan is a funny thing. I'm genuinely excited about the prospect of Keegan coming in to save us even though my head is telling me he would be a terrible person to run a football club, I don't care.

Don't they know it's only Thursday?

If it's good enough for Man Utd...

Well that narrows it down then.

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My head hurts.