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How would that help?

I think he was referring to people's lack of appreciation for Moyes

That clip is the exact bit I saw when I turned on MNF last night. It's absolutely hilarious, watching him standing there preaching his knowledge like he's some guru of the game, and not the person who has literally just been sacked for creating a mess so bad that the team he created, coached and managed has a strong chance of being the worst in the history of the Premier League. They should have brought up some other clips for him to share his sage wisdom on - for example I'd have loved to hear him talk through a video showing: Each of the 36 goals we conceded in the 16 games we'd played when we sacked him - the second highest of any team in the league at that point Each of the 27 errors we made which led to shots for the opposition - the highest of any team in the league Each of the 11 errors we made which led to goals for the opposition - the highest of any team in the league Obviously none of these could be down to him, so presumably he'd just blame the players... the ones he signed, picked and coached?

No - if you only have one idea, and a) you can’t see that it won’t work with the players you’ve got against the quality of opposition you’re playing, and b) you can’t or won’t change it, and you keep losing game after game after game because of it, that absolutely does make you a bad manager. Good managers don’t say ‘My plan would have worked if only I’d spotted the very obvious fatal flaws in it, and everything had been different.’ Good managers know that winning is all that matters, and adapt and find a way to win with what they’ve actually got. Look at the results Moyes has got at Everton in a matter of weeks with the same set of players that Dyche had. That’s a proper manager at work.

I turned it on and he was standing in front of the video wall having a right pop at Spurs for making risky passes early in their game against Bournemouth and putting themselves under needless pressure at the back, which apparently you shouldn’t do because it immediately gives the opposition team and crowd a lift and they smell blood which makes it harder for you. Yeah, what sort of twat would coach a team to do that? The absolute brass neck on him.

'Press well with a low block'. It sounds so sensible, obvious even. So if he is aware that we need to go back to basics, why does he then set up to do the maddest shit imaginable like playing a 3 man defence with an out-of-position, championship level full-back and an out-of-position midfielder where the centre-backs should be, and then put the nutcase cherry on top of his mental cake by telling these poor confused souls to mark man-to-man? This season has got to the point where the only real entertainment comes at 1.45pm when we see how whoever is managing the team has managed to outdo themselves in terms of how barmy they can make the team selection and tactics. So in that respect, I'm almost looking forward to it, if only out of sheer morbid curiosity.

Spot on. When there’s that little balance and that many players playing out of position you don’t get away with it at any level. To actually deliberately set up like that, against PL level players and managers, is suicidal. He lost me the second he chose to play Aribo as a centre half when we had 3 actual centre halves fit and available to play. I mean what the actual fuck.

Who would you target?

Who do you think we should go for who is better and would take the job?

Crook and Murphy putting the boot into Juric on TalkShite just now. Saying he's unquestionably made us worse, his team selections are mental, that it looks like the players aren't playing for him, and that when you hear him talk, it's not hard to understand why that is because he's so uninspiring. 'He gives you absolutely nothing to get behind' was Murphy's view as a former player. Whatever you think of them or that station, it's difficult to argue with that, although it does give the players way too much of an easy ride. The board, the team management and the players are all equally culpable for how crap we are IMO. Both also gave massive props to our away support last night and said our fans were magnificent, especially when you consider the absolute dogshit they were watching and what they have had to endure all season.

Exactly. All those positions we desperately needed to improve, and instead we sign cover for one of the few where we’ve actually got someone half decent. Meanwhile the central defence, defensive midfield and striking positions are left as a shitshow. Brilliant.

I thought he looked alright on his debut as well, but if the manager again puts him on the bench tomorrow, then considering he’s now had a chance to have a good look at him and the player appears to be fit, you’d have to assume that that indicates that the manager doesn’t think he’d improve the team by starting him. Considering that we need to improve in pretty much every position on the pitch, to have spent our time, effort and money recruiting someone who isn’t actually better than anyone in the current starting XI is quite an achievement. It would seem to suggest yet another pointless, non-descript, quantity over quality, squad-filler signing, which is even more absurd when we’ve already got such a bloated squad and we’ve been clear that we need to make it smaller and clear out the dross we’ve previously accumulated.

Not seeing Gronbaek in many people’s starting line-ups. Only Saints could bring someone in because of a stated need to ‘strengthen’, and then recruit someone who’s apparently not good enough to get into one of the worst premier league sides of all time.

Yep. Bailed before the fifth one went in.

Was he informed at half time?

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The fucking irony. And there's one of the many reasons I feel sorry for you.

I’m not answering you because I genuinely feel sorry for you. On about five different levels. Enjoy the game.

Just stop, you’re embarrassing yourself. Again.

Imagine actually believing that 🤣

That side has maybe 3 premier league quality players in it.

Personally I'd play a formation with two up top, then play an out-of-position winger and an out-of-position midfielder in the two striking positions, with five actual centre-forwards on the bench, and then when that doesn't work I'd put them all on at once and then say after the game that I did that because we needed goals. Just like we did last time.

Argyle defender and man of the match Katic drops the fuck bomb live, not once but twice, straight to camera during his post-match interview on mid-Sunday-afternoon ITV. Marvellous stuff.

If anyone's still looking for a stream, this one's working ok for me. http://www.fawanews.com/Southampton vs Burnley.html

They’re second in the championship, not expecting them to be pushovers. Plus they’ve started Jonjo Shelvey who for some reason it feels always plays well against us