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I no longer believe Hughes saved us from relegation... Claude Puel saved us from relegation.

well said.

Get over yourself!

how clever! pat yourself on the back, lad.

co-sign.

out of curiosity, i did the math. the first "big 4" club has a 4 in 7 chance of drawing a "minnow." assuming that happens, the second big club has a 3 in 5 chance. assuming that happens, the third has a 2 in 3 chance. the fourth's opponent is also thereby determined. 4x3x2 is 24, 7x5x3 is 125, 24/125 is ... a breath shy of 1 in 5 odds that they all avoid one another. was shocked that it wasn't like 1 in 15 or the like, but there you have it. having said that: eff the lot of them.

i think it's about a 1 in 5 chance that any 4 given teams from an 8-team draw will avoid one another. not editorializing but since i did the math, thought i should share. i couldn't believe it was so "low." but: the first "big team" has a 4 in 7 chance of getting a "minnow." then the next big team has a 3 in 5 chance. and the third team has a 2 in 3 chance. that sets the last result. multiply it all out, its 1 in 5. now i have to ask my stats professor friend to check my methodology.

Batman, the superhero beloved by keyboard warriors and juvenile ******s everywhere. And somehow you still disgrace the name.

back him. its pretty simple, really. you back the club. you back the players. you back the coach. that's just "what you do." sad to see a great club appear to have such blinkered, toxic, basically sh*t supporters, but I console myself with knowing that you lot don't really represent the average fan.

Thoughts? alright. You're a narcissist, you don't have any idea what you're on about, and you probably watch too many shows about conspiracies and cover-ups. Somebody call the cops!

We're two wins off 10th.

Eating a hat isn’t even particularly hard.

one thread to make yourselves like big men wasn't enough?

Sort of wish all the boo boys would've given it a rest today. It's not like the result has endangered their brilliant bets on the club being relegated. w**kers. Hope Bertrand's okay. Sims to the bench please! Wednesday's so much more important, hope there are some good vibes in the locker room. Carrillo can't start, surely?

Sure, I think he should stay. Even if we were in the relegation places. I don't think he's a very good manager, but it seems to me that he's nowhere near as bad as you lot make out. There are red lines for me like fragging your own players, punitive benchings, constant rows with players, etc. MP hasn't done any of that. I wish the results were better but I don't blame him for the poisonous atmosphere at the club. As far as I'm concerned, that's mostly on you lot. Well, that and the economic reality that we are always going to have talent poached. But no, I basically think the poor results are down to a drop in form in the players who have been around about 3 seasons now, who are rightly feeling pretty jaded now that their very good work of the past two or three seasons has not been rewarded with either a) a move into "elite money" or b) genuine support from the fans. I have very little faith in the notion that "the dressing room" got rid of Claude Puel. It's certain though that the toxicity of the fans at the tail end of last season played a huge part. After losing MP1 and Koeman, everything was always going to be on a precipice with regard to any sense of stability at the club. The toxic fans pushed everything right off the cliff, and for what? I am not joking when I say that I see parallels between the club's fortunes and the Brexit situation. Not just because of Puel's regrettable accent, either. So yes, I would rather see the team finish 17th with MP than see him sacked right now. If I felt 99% certain that another manager would make the difference in safety or relegation, I would grudgingly say, okay, fire the guy; but there is very little evidence of that actually working and it's all unknowable insofar as you'll never know what results the team would have had under Pellegrino to close out the season. The problem is: fans (and I speak of other clubs here, not SFC) think they're heroes for getting someone sacked when a new coach brings some life into the side, but never, ever feel any sense of regret or shame when the next guy does squat, or worse. Which is every bit as likely to happen. Meanwhile, the atmosphere at the club becomes ever-more toxic. It seems to me like the moaners who got Puel fired, rather than taking some pleasure from what the team did accomplish in 2014-2017, are just out for a repeat of the power trip they got from running the frenchman out of town. Personally I think there's a lot that Pellegrino is getting wrong, particularly the timing of substitutions. But I also recognize that he has far more to consider than I, or any fan, does. To name just one thing, he knows far more about the capabilities of, and the fitness levels of various players than the fans do, or ever will. And you know what? Managers are *by definition* going to make a lot of mistakes. It's impossible not to! Players are going to have good games, bad games, good weeks, bad weeks, good seasons, bad seasons. Nobody in the club or locker room seems like they're making a deliberate choice to try and ruin the team, which is more than i can say for a lot of the people on this forum. So, no thanks. Pellegrino in. You had a good manager, and blew it. Reap the reward.

Ditto. I'm not depressed about the Saints, I'm extremely depressed about the fans though. Been staying off here as much as possible, but trying to keep in mind that everything the internet touches turns to sh*t so i guess every team's message boards are just as lame. But yes good points and thank you for continuing to make them. Would be nice to see people backing the club, but we've got too many geniuses up in here, and not enough supporters.

So far as I'm concerned, most of the fan base lost its right to ***** and moan after last season. supporting the team means supporting the coach. some of you need a good slapping.

Unless Hernandez and Redmond are on the same wages, they don't cost the same. And I seriously doubt that they are.

Among all the hot takes, can I just contribute that I am so pleased that we moved Jose on when we did? Do people need more that that that one's a + in the "Les" ledger?

How much do you spend on subscriptions to print media? if the answer is "zero" then you don't get to complain about copy editing. With sincere thanks, a copy editor.

the managerial situation, as in, we have a manager, a good one, under contract?

I've pretty much had it with the phony fans and / haters taking the **** in here, sorry to report. It's sad. Really sympathize with you guys trying to hold it together with rational discourse while supporting the club. I know I'm just a weirdo foreigner obsessed with a team -- hell, a sport -- that I have no birthright to, but I have got to say that some people here, if they do think of themselves as genuine SFC people, should be ashamed of themselves. You're acting like front-running, crybaby American sports fans, for reals. I should know. There's valued dissent, then there's rancid, toxicity: learn the difference and get on the right side of supporting the players, the manager and the staff. To the Scummers on here: **** off to the fourth, please. Everybody else: Up the Saints!

Don't care if he makes the odd mistake, nobody of the current lot means more to me as a Saint than Yoshida Maya. Think he exemplifies everything I love about the club, frustrations and all, and think the haters are crazy to not see it. Came from VVV Venlo, for the love of god. Know he's not the best, but probably the most improved Saint from when he signed to today, youth teamers excluded.

Nothing but respect for the job he's done, from day one. What I wouldn't give for him to wind up Liverpool by saying the truth, postgame, that our boys wanted it more, full stop.

It's certainly been my impression from watching this season.