SaintBobby

Troll.

One issue that's already been highlighted is the likely demands that will be made of Liebherr to "open his wallet" if things don't get off to a blindingly good start. We are going to need to have the patience of a....errr....saint.

Has this been confirmed somewhere - or is it a good guess?

Does that mean Wotte is confirmed as the man to spend the dosh?

Don't want to see the skates disappear, but their natural level is probably League One. I look forward to seeing them hurtle towards it as we pull away back to our natural territory...

Awesome if true. Kelvin definitely on verge of legend status...

Bloody marvellous isn't it? I don't know if he will throw cash at the club (he sounds like he'll take a methodical, patient approach), but he clearly moves us away from a "sell to survive" scenario. And...we're in League One FFS....I mean what's the average owner in League One worth? (at a total guess, £2.5m?....that's 0.1% of what Liebherr's worth....put another way, I think Liebherr is worth about 20-30 times all the other League One clubs combined!)

Thanks so much. What a wonderful day for Southampton FC.

But I want it to get to page # 118....

Not unreasonable during the exclusivity period.

Seconded

Yes x 3

Any Saints fans in London up for celebration?

First priority was to save Saints. Now I wanna save this thread.....it should be protected as an historical treasure.

Phew. Not bad news at all. Not 'arf bad. COYR

I didn't confuse them. That's why I used the word "also". Fry needs to get the best deal for the creditors. But from our point of view, we basically want the largest possible investment in the club. I agree that the Liebherr deal looks excellent, but I don't want to wholly rule out the slight chance that the WFG might (a) offer the creditors a better deal - in which case Fry needs to listen to them - and (b) offer more investment in the team.

My only issue with Illingsworth is that he isn't very good on the media. I don't think he's rabid or insane - just not very articulate. His line on SSN a few weeks ago "The thing that most people will say about Mark Wotte is that he's Dutch" was a particular low point. I wonder whether this forum could democratically elect a "representative" who was able and willing to appear on/in the media, through a poll.

Revolutionary new coaching set-up

Emotionally and psychologically, I'm in the "just getting it f-ing done" camp. Intellectually, I guess Fry is in a difficult position (unless the ink is dry) if the Worldwide Finance Group are offering more to the creditors than Liebherr. Also, I suppose it's theoretically possible that the WFG might be willing the invest much more in moving the club forward than Liebherr. I wouldn't want to miss out on an amazing deal because we swiftly accepted a good deal. Remember, a week or two ago, a lot of people were desperate for the Pinnacle deal to be completed. Some people were saying things like "I don't care if Fialka isn't a billionaire, just save our club." It turns out that the agonising last couple of weeks may have been well worth it in the long run.

Well, we sent lots of books and quite measurable funds to Eastern bloc dissidents. So, that's something tangible. But clearly, I don't seriously believe I was instrumental in bringing down the USSR. I think my exasperation is really with Stanley rather than you. If the fanbase is going to move forward in a united way, it just grates that the "boycotters" are claiming some factional credit for the fact that we're about to be owned by a billionaire. The implication is that those of us who sat through and paid for many hours of grim football last season were responsible for keeping Lowe in place and the credit for the Liebherr takeover goes to the "real fans" who stayed away. I think that's both factually incorrect and also v unhelpful in trying to unite the fanbase.

The "r" word

I'm quite certain the impact of both efforts was absolutely zero. The boycotters who believe they have brought about this bright new dawn are just as delusional of the spotty teenagers who belived we'd helped bring down the Soviet empire.

You're not overly adept at spotting sarcasm, are you?

Fair point - alhough I guess/hope the point is academic now. Would have thought Tony Lynam will be keen to post on here to give his side of the story first. I'm sure he wouldn't want his credibility to suffer by not furnishing with us fans with all the facts...

When I was at sixth form college, I helped set up a student society that argued for democracy and human rights in every corner of the globe. An encouraging number of students supported our stance. Within three months of our formation, the Berlin Wall fell. Although it cannot be proven, it has to be accepted that there is a possibility that this was sufficient to tip the balance to push the Soviet bloc over the edge. Fair comment?