Micky

Thirty bloody quid.... are you sure you haven't actually bought the crappy Withdean Stadium...???

Allow me to edit your post slightly to what I believe that most people actually think. Lets not kid ourselves, the scenario is a whole lot likelier than us returning to the Premiership thats for sure.

Having witnessed what I have in the first half of the season I have resigned myself to relegation. In the unlikely event that it doesn't happen then it's a bonus. People keep asking 'Can it get any worse?' and it appears to me that the stark reality is 'Yes it can and probably will'. Our home form is shocking, as is our goals ratio - I really do not see us getting anywhere near enough points for safety.

Not often that me and Alpine agree on much - but I think that he's probably called this one near to the mark. Can't see us going straight back up - it's not that easy - look at Leeds Utd, it took Forest a fair few years too. If we go down, supposing we manage to stay in the 3rd tier I can see it taking us a good 4 - 5 years to get back again. As for getting into the top flight - I think your looking at a decade if we get relegated this season. Time to dig in - otherwise it's going to be a long long long way back from this mess.

I don't believe I said that - strangely though, I have always felt that a certain Nigel Clough might do well at a higher level. I wonder if he is available.... doooh maybe not now....

Observation noted - and agreed - Derby worked bloody hard for their result. We appear to like to 'knock it about a bit in midfield' (tippy tappy as Alpine would say) but we don't want to be sweating over our nice clean shirts. After our game, somebody on here suggested that we need Robbie Savage to 'add some steele' to our midfield and I thought 'Shyte - no way do I want that clogger in red and white...' Look who came on for Derby tonight - shucks, what do I know...!!!

I agree with you entirely. Up to now, from what I have seen, we look pretty clueless in all departments less KD (thank god). But comparing one game is unrealistic - we now have 20 to get our asses in gear and sort this season out - otherwise the outcome could well be catastrophic for this club.

Lets face it, the whole season has been a bloody pantomime up to now anyway and so therefore that wouldn't look out of place in our team. Probably faster and fitter than half of our squad anyway - bring it on - give it a game...!

Derby did Man U fair and square - but how that relates to our game against them is beyond me. Football is full of surprises, didn't see many people predicting we would go to Reading and win, look at the teams that Burnley have taken out in their cup run. There are loads of 'one off' surprises that you can quote - but in the grand scheme of things trying to compare individual games and point to form is pretty fruitless. For us it matters only about what we do between now and the end of the season - shove Derby...!!

My experience of a tandem is that the guy at the front does all the peddling and works his butt off, while the guy at the back sits and does naff all because his 'partner' can't see his skiving, idle ways. I take it DMG will be on the back then...!!!

Can't say that I'm particularly overwhelmed - but I guess 'something is always better than nothing'.

Phew - thank god for posts 2 - 6, I thought I had lost my marbles for a minute there...!!!

Interesting theory - makes a change from the normal D & G merchants - I hope you are correct.

Perhaps these conclusions are nearer the actual truth... Here we are only 4 days into the new year and the old ITK and source problem has once again arisen. It's gonna be a good one......

Most foolish post of the day.... nay year actually, as we are only 5 days into it....

Somebody is lying.... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=7592 or at the very least being 'economical with the truth...!'

The truth hurts - but Tim is right in a way. These kids are being fed to the lions, they aint good enough - but they are all that we have. We need to keep believing in them otherwise they will surely fold at every game in which the going gets tough. Spin no, encouragement, advice and support - yes. Currently it's the only way we are going to get out of this mess.

Would agree - I didn't see anybody not trying today - the fact of the matter is they played to thier potential, but this was never, ever going to be anywhere near enough to worry Man Utd. They are simply not good enough to compete. Individually we probably have a few that are good enough - collectively, unfortunately we are nowhere near the mark. Tis not thier fault - they just aint good enough.

Exactly - so if you're going to do anything against the top sides - you have to play well, get your fair share of luck and defend properly. Unfortunately none of those things happened for us today.

Because they are 10 times better than us - simple fact really.

Better team spirit perhaps.... we look like a team that really doesn't have too much confidence no matter who we play.

Red or Yellow - you have to also take into account that somebody is also assessing Mike Rileys performance as well. It looked a rash, poorly timed tackle - a red for me.

For those that haven't seen it: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article2086897.ece

Point..?

Laughable - hello - he doesn't want to smoke on the concourse. (He did have a crafty few puffs there though, and that might well be terminal for you if you were one of the 15000 or so that were withn 100 meters of him when he committed that cardinal sin). Again you appear to be playing moderator and trying to regulate what can and cannot be discussed here. You seem to think that he wants the ban lifted - he doesn't - he wants some arrangement in place to be able to smoke safely away from non smokers. No more no less. Honestly guys - he wants a cigarette - it ain't the end of the world. BTW - Should we also get a petition going to: Get a centre back Remove Lowe Remove Wilde Get Corke back Organise a mass demo ...or perhaps just discuss the possibilities here on the forum.