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If he does, Rupert has to go on the same day. You can't blame Wilde or Crouch this time Rupert.

Something has changed since the Sheff Wed game. Wonder if JP has stood up to Rupert and JP is about to walk the plank and the kids aren't happy? Wotte will probably be put in charge next week.

I'd bring on Wotton, take the kids off, go to 4-5-1 and try and avoid getting a 6,7 or 8-0 hammering. That would really destroy morale so we've got to take our medicine today and batten down the hatches.

Nice idea - how are we goig to pay him though? Lowe needs to depart now though, that's the third awful blunder after Grey and Wriggley, we'll never know with Sturrock and Lowe was unlucky with Burley so I excuse him on that one. Think I'd rather have Barclays pick our new manager than Rupert...

Warnock kind of summed it up - he isn't a "footballer" but does a job at his level, albeit on too high a wage at Palace before the economy started driving CCC wages down. We need 4-5 of that ilk on Jan 1 to stand a chance of winning any more than 2-3 games for the rst of the season. Edit - Kuqi makes it 1-1 and Mr Sulky (Matt Mills) off for a prof foul. How ironic. Great game Liv-Hull by the looks, MLT got the best game today.

I actually feel sorry for him (JP). Lowe cannot duck responsibity this time, about time we gave him a red card at the next game, if the bank don't fire Rupert first. This was a stupid risk Lowe took when we were already on our knees. Lowe out and there can be no justification for him staying now surely.

I think this might be curtains for JP sadly and possibly for Lowe. The bank will be watching this and telling Rupert to ditch his wacky ideas and get 4-5 CCC journeymen in with the Surman and Lallana money. Certainly I think he now needs to resign on Monday as the club is clearly not functioning and and for the sake of unity. By the way, Donny have just gone 1-0 up at Palace as well.

Totally agree, the parks have decayed with the rest of the city and opening the shopping up to them would revive both. The monorail project in the 1980s should have been followed through, Southampton suffers a "traffic heart attack" on a daily basis and even catches you if you are heading West for a meeting on the A27. I use the A272 to go north now until SCC and the neighbouring local authorities forget their inbred, carrot-crunching rivalries and actually take proper measures to un-block the Western M27 corridor for everyone's benefit.

Right, here goes.... Duvel - Flemish for Devil. 8.5%, strong, blonde but v.drinkable. Easily available in the UK these days though. Superb beer. Delirium Tremens - it has pink elephants on the marble bottle but a wonderful, sweetish, fruity 9% ale. Bitter Virtue do it in Soton if you develop a taste for it. Orval - a amber/deep orange Trappist ale at 6%, a really different flavour but one to savour, particularly when aged. De Konick - served in a glass called a Bolleke....5%, spicy and not dissimilar to Tim Taylor Landlord in the UK Westmalle Triple is superb at 9.5% if you like your blond ales. Bush/Scaldis is a peach, rich ale but needs care at 12%! Rochefort's Trappist ales are well worth trying. I recommend the Abbey ales from Maredsous too, brewed by Moortgat, the same as Duvel. Tongerlo do some good beers. There is a good wheat beer from Bruges - Brugs Blond. If you can find any Westerverlen out there I am very jealous! Many trips over there and so rare to see them. Also, look out for the seasonal beers at this time of year - BarBar Dark is a great example. If you want to bring some back cheaply, try the GB Express behind the Grand Place in Brussels. The best bar in Belgium is in Antwerp, the Kulminator. One of the best pubs in the world IMO.

Your wish is granted by Harmy & Freddy! Great day for England, let's get a good 60-70 run lead and then eke out as many runs as we can as the pitch is already uneven. The longer we bat, the worse it will get for India in their 2nd innings.

We can only hope Calderwood is stupid enough to take him back to Nottingham. That said, Notts County or Burton is more McG's level.

Don't blame him if he wants to go, the club is in an awful state. That said, we'll get a lot more for him than we would have done last season when he was as weak as a kitten at times. Drew has addressed his lack of upper body strength - which remains a problem for most of our team - and hence he has been able to influence games a lot more this season. Hopefully the bank won't swallow the lot and we can bring in two or three experienced CCC players with some of the money.

Agree, thought he was one of the few bright spots of last season. His best game IMO was Bristol City home. I'd think he'd do quite well in the current side but fitness was always an issue with II sadly.

I agree with the vast majority of what you say Frank and Abramovic arriving at Chelsea in 2003 was a tipping point for a lot of clubs. We got a great deal on Wayne Bridge but we lost another player in Marsden almost overnight and losing a local lad ripped the heart out of the side in some ways although the results were very good in the first half of 2003/4. My contention is that the club was very attractive for investment at that stage and Lowe should have dumped Askham & co and brought in the extra injection of revenue before other clubs were looking to do it. Also, when medium-sized clubs take their foot off of the pedal in the PL, they get punished - look at Charlton as well. SFC had outgrown that generation of directors and probably Lowe's style of management. If you are a John Madjeski, you can be a dictator and interfere but not when you only own 6%. Hull City are an example of finding the right level of investment without an out-and-out sugar daddy to push them forward. Still, outside of the top 4 any club can go down and the penalties are too severe. If we'd gone down in these conditions in 1974, we wouldn't have had those wonderful years to follow. Maybe the world economy will equalise things again so that we can get our "game" back.

That's what may do for them. Otherwise, I cannot seriously see Hants Police getting any convictions. If any other fans had complained I would have had more sympathy but after the Skates interrupted Bates' silence and also their sick chants at Dave Jones's first game for Wolves, they are hypocrites of the highest order. Watch Harry though, let's see if he condemns the Spurs fans now he is at WHL! Bet he says they are innocent and the best fans in the world. One of the songs wasn't that bad but one was pretty vile but it has been sung apparently at North London derbies regularly when Campbell was at Arsenal. That's not defending it, I just think the Police's time could be better used on crimes committed on the inner cities of Portsmouth and Southampton.

Example A - Adam Hammill. O'Neill also laid into us over O'Halleron who then compounded his misery by doing his knee playing at SMS for Ireland U21s. Our academy set-up is also not what it was and clubs are not daft. Don't believe all the spin on the OS.

This would be good for the city and would give a bit of balance alongside the white elephant that has been West Quay. Perhaps now all of the post-war concrete (which was only ever supposed to be temporary) can be demolished asap from where McDonalds was right up to the old Tyrell & Green site and the stores relocated in a more open plan format with proper arts facilities and scope fro some new ideas.

- SMS to finally get a railway station outside of it and a decent real ale pub to open nearer the ground - Wilde, Lowe, Richards and Askham, even Crouch, all gone and never to return - 4-4-2 please with proper strikers - An investor to come in, not a sugar daddy but someone who sees the potential

Holmes getting injured definately didn't help, hope he can return soon. We do look very one-dimensional and narrow although I'm not convinced we'd have that many more points without strikers to finish off the chances we were creating at the time. I do agree with what you saying though, by stretching teams we were creating space and a lot more chances and pace does make such a difference outside the Premier League.

Don't worry mate, know you aren't having a pop at Lloyd. He might fare better as a wing back in a 5-3-2 but Hoddle and Redknapp tried that system with dire results and soon dropped it. I just feel sorry for the lad and feel he's getting a poor deal from the club. I do agree that we need crosses in but trouble is, McGoldrick is very limited in the air and Robertson looks like he's playing at least one league too high. Sadly our best headers of the ball are the higher earners and as with anything in life, you get what you pay for and we are totally skint and verging on insolvent (actually if we weren't a football club we'd already be in a CVA, HMRC wouldn't have allowed Wilde or Lowe to come back in any other sector). Smith has been injured but hasn't exactly been missed by Millwall given their 2nd place in the table!

Erdinger's good but there are some even better beers of this style out there. Try Franzkeiner, Maisells Weise, Schneider and also Gulpener of the Netherlands (the beer is Korenwolf).

But that's professional football Danny, teams do organise themselves well and play on the break when they were 2-0 up, we did it very well under WGS and in fact were known for it. Warnock may not be my favourite bloke but he knows his stuff and did a very professional job on us last night. I did feel sorry for James as he is going to be a good midfielder and will go on to bigger and better clubs than the current rubbish we waste time on supporting but he is clearly not a full-back and we may ruin a promising player. Even with financial situation, is someone really going to tell me that we've got the lowest wage bill in the division? Barnsley have a very low wage celing which was imposed after they went into admin 3-4 years ago and Blackpool have only 3 sides on their ground yet Blackpool should have beaten us 5 or 6-0 in the second half at SMS, only a brilliant Kelvin display saved us. Last night was simply not good enough, even in the circumstances and the board and management, even though I like JP as a bloke, are on probation at the moment. The bank will be watching current results and performance and will not be as easily swayed by Rupert's spin as some of the posters on here. 2009 will be a crunch year for Southampton Football Club one way or the other.

I'm reluctant to slate James at all, he'd be in my first XI as a midfielder, not a RB. We are going to ruin this player. The pity was Holmes getting injured, he was getting some very decent crosses in, just a shame we've loaned out all the players that can head a ball. Rasiak and John would have had 10 each at least from that kind of delivery. Those two had to go as high earners but to replace them with another raw kid in Robertson? FFS, we might as well use Paterson, at least he's our player and we're not Sheff Utd's academy. Not that I think Paterson is ready but I think people will understand my point. I suspect JP had banked on Pekhart doing the business but he's been poor so we need to send Robertson, Pekhart and Smith back and use that money to bring in a better calibre striker.

He has shown some CCC calibre moments but not across the board but I think he needs a kick up the backside. Agree on Robertson, one lovely goal V Norwich but other than that, a total waste of a loan and whatever we're paying him, Smith and Pekhart is too much and we could have used that on a proper striker or towards Rasiak/John's wages. Wotte and Lowe should be held accountable for wasting this money.

We've needed said player since Marsden's legs went IMO. SMS is far too friendly a place to visit whereas the best Saints teams historically have had a Case, Williams (he could seriously play but could really put his foot in), Dennis and going further back a Steele or Hollywood. If I was a CCC player up against this bunch, I'd just put my foot in for the first 20 minutes, perhaps risking a yellow and you know the rest of the game would be easy. So it proved for Palace last night.