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Unlikely. Sadly it's only an AGM not an EGM but I just can't see it, particularly given the state of the US economy.

Good point - can anyone clarify?

Glad I'm not the only one who didn't understand that post!

The trouble is, we suffer as well, Hedge Funds have been a key way of injecting money into the economy and bolstering pension funds. The regulators should be fired without recompense and I'd be investigating whether in fact they were complicit and profited from Madoff's scam. Madoff should get a long jail term for this and the regulators should go down for this as well. What a disgrace, Obama has a huge mess to clean up left by the Neo-Cons. That said, Brown has let the so-called "World-Class British Banking System" run riot here as well and cheat the tax systems whilst small businesses get screwed for paying for public services. The City may as well have gone to Goodwood and gambled billions on horses. Note RBS's involvement yet again. I wouldn't let RBS's board run a bath, let alone a multinational bank. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7783236.stm

I generally agree with many of your posts Chez but there was a difference with Kenwyne, you could see the natural athlete in him even if the finer side of his game took time to emerge. I just don't see that capability in McG and don't forget, he didn't find the net once at Port Vale in about 19 games last year. Even though he was raw at the time, Kenwyne scored something like 10 in 10 games for Wednesday at that level. As for Kelvin, I'm delighted with is form this season but we did pay quite a bit for him at the time and he was poor in 2006/7 and in the early part of last season. Hillsborough seemed to be a wake-up call and he's taken on more responsibility since the bigger earners have gone. Big credit to Kelvin for turning it around, has McG got the skill or character to do the same? I hope so.

There are some good points in there Jonah but you have to appreciate the academy in itself is a big overhead - £4-6m p.a. This point tends to be missed but we need to produce a Bale or Theo most years just to break even. I'm not suggesting keeping the big earners but rather maximising what we have left in a system that is simple and suits the personnel. Can you honestly tell me Jonah, particularly at home, that we are doing that? I'm not upset at Lowe, I am angry at Wilde, but I just don't think JP is working out and I don't think it was a risk worth taking. We are just above the drop zone now but we are relying on other teams being in equally dire financial straits as the squad we have on Feb 1 will be much weaker. Given our track-record on loan recruitment this season, I can't see us scoring the goals to stay up. Someone with better knowledge of the English game might have the contacts to get us that loan striker that keeps us our heads above water. I don't think Lowe is right man to lead us forward but I wish him and JP well. If they fail and we go down, we are in administration and effectively League 2 with the penalty that follows. I'm not a stay-away and continue to spend money but I am entitled to an opinion and it happens to be different to those who are supporters of the current board.

Let's hope JP throws his bizarre tactics book away and reverts to 4-4-2 and sets us up to get at Forest. Let's get some width at long last and some crosses in, only Holmes and Skacel seem able to cross a ball. Never mind the tippy tappy stuff, we MUST win this game.

I see this regularly posted on here and I'm not sure it's accurate. Put it this way, about 10-12 of my friends who were long-term STs even up to last season have stopped going. Midweek games are tricky for me but I get to Saturday home fixtures. I'm just one fan and I know other fans who can tell similar stories. I think we'd be getting 18-20k without Lowe, even if Cowen was CEO and Rupert focused on sorting out WH Ireland.

Best 5 - Bale, K Jones, R Wright (although Kelvin has been great this season), Walcott, A Davies Worst 5 - crikey, so many to pick from....- J Wright, McGoldrick, Makin, Wotton and Pekhart. Pele could go in the top 5 as a DM but he would be the top pick in the worst 5 as a CB. That display V Derby when it really mattered still haunts me, Nick Holmes could have loaned us one of his YTS CB's and they wouldn't have done any worse against Steve Howard.

Trouble is Adrian, can David Luker and his team cope with a big walk-up after the budget cuts? The last thing we need is the IT system to crash and people who fancy the game on the day waiting 2 hours + in the freezing cold? Glad I've already got mine.

Perhaps it's time to turn the heat up on Wilde?

It's the first time I can remember that we've had 9 sportspeople that could have won it and no-one would have quibbled. I mean Rebecca Romeo has won Olympic medals in 2 different sports and didn't even get into the top 3! The only one of the ten that wasn't really going to win was Murray, a very good year but to compete with the other 9, he would have had to have won the US Open. Still, Murray should be a serious contender in the Aussie Open soon.

I don't think that we should be spending money Jonah but it is clear to anyone that knows their football that Lowe has messed up yet another management appointment. Why we had to take such a silly gamble when the club was on it's knees is beyond me. We're not the only CCC club offloading it's big earners but we're the only one to have taken a brainless gamble like this. It's hard to enough to compete when you're having a firesale but to do it without good knowledge of this level of English football is absurd. If we do not beat Forest, Lowe should stick to his 6% shareholding, take a backseat and focus on WH Ireland. Even Andrew Cowen would be an improvement as he understands how to engage fans and the club's stakeholder's far better.

Some people get a bee in their bonnet on a particular day, especially if the game isn't going well. Odd that he started at 0-0 though. We do have our fair share of odd fans, I can remember this guy offering me out at Bolton, as one of my friends that had travelled up with me was having a pop at one our players for bottling a challenge, for not "getting behind the team"! It wasn't even as if it had been me that had said anything! It was all bravado anyway as he was holding a young kid at the time. Great example he was setting as a Dad...

The funny thing is that the barstaff pretend that they don't get the joke but always caution you "not to drop your Bolleke" and suppress a smirk! I've got a Rochefort 10 from 2005 that should be approaching it's best by now so might have to open that on New Year's Eve. Belgium does some great XMAS seasonal beers with lots of spices.

I'm gutted but Tendulkar is one of the all time greats and just showed exactly why, so no disgrace as England played very well IMO, India's time has come and they are now a force away from home too.

It seems a bit daft to me as well, doubt if they would have been if we'd been 1-0 up after 11 mins. Not that I'm condoning them at all but perhaps the gloves were a visual symptom of some fans feeling the young lads weren't stuck into Burnley in the first half? Fab used to get stick from an ST that sat near me in the Kingsland North circa 4-5 years ago so I have come across this before.

No that's Burnley's normal gate. Personally, I'd like to see some meaningful loan players come in, get rid of rubbish like Robertson and Pekfart, if they can't dislodge McG they probably shouldn't be in professional football, including a RB so that Cork can play DM. Morgan is more technically gifted but Cork will do the better job in that position against the better CCC sides. Coyle deserves a lot of credit for what he is doing at Burnley but again, Burnley are another club that have attracted external investment, despite having a much smaller fanbase than us, which is why they can purchase players like Paterson and the very impressive Eagles. Even Blackpool and Plymouth have as well. We are seen as such a rabble that I'm not surprised anyone will touch us with a barge pole. Do feel sorry for JP to an extent, seems a top bloke but he'd be better suited to Hockaday's job and have a more experienced manager at this level in the hotseat.

I'll make one SW, Andrew Cowen in the short-term. Rupert could still keep his hand in but Cowen is far more highly regarded by both our fans and within football itself. It's not that I hate Rupert, far from it, he's far better than Askham, Wiseman, Richards or Wilde, all of which I do hate and even more so than Harry or even Milan Mandaric who even if they had set out to destroy our club couldn't have done a better job than Wilde and co. At least Rupert appointed WGS and did some positive things. I just think that he is such a divisive and "marmite" figure that he needs to take a back seat in the interests of unity. His choice in managers since 2004 has also stunk which is a definate shortfall in this particular industry, not to mention the costly SCW debacle! SCW was fine if we'd stayed up and if it hadn't interfered with the first team XI. I think Cowen understands how bigger organisations work better than Rupert and is a better people manager. Rupert is a strong leader, give him credit for that but his unitary style can only work if you get all of your big decisions correct.

The geographical location of the game shouldn't matter - professional footballers should be able to perform to a decent standard whether it's a home game or 300 miles away. You are right about Burnley being a good side as they are and Owen Coyle is a very bright young British manager. I'm sick of talking about Lowe but he does keep on making obvious mistakes - ie this daft Dutch experiment. We needed a hungry English manager who knows life outside the PL well and whilst JP seems like a lovely bloke, the tactics are not suitable for the limited type of players that we have. I like the style of the football but it must have end product. Also, you need to be able to be professional and close a game up, WBA and Leeds are two other sides who aren't doing this either and overplaying, with similar results to us. I'd be quite happy with survival but do bear in mind folks that the squad is likely to be much weaker by 1 Feb unless we can offload John, Euell et al.

PR spin at it's best/worst. Rupert, spend the money on the club and not this nonsense.

A new manager V Forest might give us a kick-start. The managers that are overplaying with the limited players they have are really coming unstuck - JP, Mowbray, McAllister. A mixed approach is needed if you don't have Ronaldo, Gerrard, Torres, Fabregas or Deco.

Great to see and some pride restored but why is there any need to leak 3 in the first 11 minutes in the first place. It's propaganda unless we get it to 3-3. Donny are still 1-1 at Palace despite playing almost 70 mins with 10 men.

Yep, sums it up given the circumstances. That's without Wigley, Gray, Sturrock and SCW's crew as well. Too many errors for a CEO and in any other organisation he would have been sacked a long time ago. Time that Barclays did what none of the other muppets will do and swing the axe.

It won't be Askham doing the hiring and firing - it will be Barclays. They will be watching our results and if they can see us slumping to a cheap relegation, they will fire Lowe and the board and force the club's sale/adminstration (which would be awful) even if Wilde loses hand over fist.