
cjay7
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Saints 8 (Eight) Sunderland 0 - Match and Reactions
cjay7 replied to Unbelievable Jeff's topic in The Saints
Yep .. Clyne, tadic , pelle , aguero and fabregas -
Good Signing - hardworking, can run the channels, chips in with a few goals and will give us some much needed balance .........a englishmans/poor mans Dirk Kuyt
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My bets on young players signing extensions.... Or Resigning some fan favs Forecast, Forren and extended contract for Nile ranger
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What am I missing... Did something happen on the preseason your last year that we all should know about...
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I see that villa wish to get rid of some players ... Perhaps a cheeky bid for Weimann
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I live In singapore and was at a Dutch Club party tonight.strange but true. On the way to the bog I bumped into a chap wearing a Toronto hockey jersey and no word of a lie I said the words " ralph krueger" and he said "you must be. Southaaampton fan". Conversation went on.......it appears that everyone in Canada thinks he is the COACH not the chairman! And point also was made that all over there think he is here purely for Prem dollars. Obviously with everyone wearing orange I asked about Koeman... Not real positive or negative. I think he might be okay but my thoughts are now survival based and for that I think we need DM:/ but who cares about my thoughts.
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I'd want the board to do everything in their power to get this man..... I have always maintained that those of us who work in football are privileged. And that’s because we get paid for a job we love and are passionate about. And in my case, I have been lucky enough to have worked in different countries, to have observed different cultures and ways of working, to have benefited from those experiences and this gives me, I believe, some idea of being able to analyse things from a different perspective, from the outside. When certain people talk about signings, and how to go about them, the market value of players, the reasons why you buy or sell a player, you can see that some of them don’t really know the true situation which can be very confusing for the fans. So in this article I will try to explain my point of view based on my experience. Obviously I will try to focus on my area of responsibility in the club. That is the football, the playing direction given by the manager or the coach as the case may be. Club Structure What you first need to establish when you go to a new club are the aims of the club and the resources available to achieve them. So it is essential to analyse in depth the club organisation, its management structure and their different functions especially if you are in a foreign country. The rules, the fixture list, the squad, the staff at the club and their roles, the situation regarding players contracts, the environment, the culture, the club tradition… knowledge of all these are essential to being able to take the right decisions. At least for those who are depending on you. In Spain or Italy there is usually a ‘Director of Football’ or ‘Chief Scout’ who in theory is responsible for signing the Coach and putting the squad together. In the majority of cases, though not all, they usually consult the man in charge at the time, but in many other cases the President or owner, who is in charge of everything, has the last say. (The 2 diagrams are only examples as there are many different structures). In England though, it is the Manager who, also in theory, is responsible for the football, and therefore has the authority to decide how to put the squad together. In practice, both types of structure depend on one premise: the money available for transfers and salaries. The ‘Manager’ on the one hand, or the Coach on the other, will have to consider the inescapable fact that they can sign only the three or four players on their list. That’s how it is. At least in the case of the ‘Manager’ he can choose the ones he wants. Make-up of the Squad As the man in charge of the technical side, you have to decide on the model of play, how you want the team to express itself on the pitch, or at least how you would like them to play. It is important to get to know your players, to talk to them so they can give you information on the composition of the squad and then you have to try to complement it with players who can enhance it and put in to practice what you want to do on the pitch. If you can’t do this, you will have to adapt and trust that they will give you support when you need it. Then you have the rules governing contracts in each country, and they are also different for teams competing in International competitions. There are leagues where it is compulsory to play at least 5 players from that country, others where there is a limit on foreign signings, and others where there is an ‘A’ and ‘B’ list of players…In the end, each country, each league, has its own peculiarities and you have to know them thoroughly and above all digest them quickly before you put the squad together and / or tweak it. This is where the plan, the football project, comes in to play, and with owners from the world of business coming in to football, you can only call it a Business Plan. Again I will refer to my own experience. When I went to Italy there was no ‘business plan’. I was only told about it on the last day of the transfer window, when they suddenly and surprisingly said that we were going to follow the ‘Financial Fair Play’ initiative. I will leave it there. In Spain, the continuous dialogue with club officials keeps you up to date on the economic constraints so you know where you are. Although once, I found myself with a surprise signing of a striker by the President on the last day in August because, as he was on loan, he was cheap. In England, specifically at Liverpool during my first 3 seasons, the Chairman and the Chief Executive kept me informed of the restrictions and options that we had. Later on though, the club structure changed, and over time, ‘business plans’ became more and more important than any football project when it came to making decisions. Something that should not be forgotten is the analysis of the Academy. Incorporating local players always gives more affinity with the club and sensibly reduces costs. In Italy and Spain the organisation depends on the ‘sporting director’ and the Coach has little input in to it. Nevertheless, in England it can be the case, as happened at Liverpool in my last year, that the Manager has control over the youth system and can follow a style of play in all age groups and with more continuity.Barcelona’s model is popular right now. There is no better or more evident example. If there are no players at youth level in the club who have the requisite ability, you have to resort to the transfer market. The ‘sporting director’ or the Manager has to manage a transfer Budget, and on top of that, take players’ wages in to account. A good scouting system is necessary and essential, although not infallible, and the money available in both cases will affect the market you can access. The income from selling and net spend are more important for the Manager than the Coach. The former tries to consider the future of the club and win at the same time. The latter, the way football is going, only tries to win and cost has less importance. Rules and specific types of organisation What also has to be considered are different International regulations. Usually the required list of available players is restricted to 25 for the first team and in some countries, like Spain, you can use youth players for up to 5 matches, after which the player has to be included in the first team squad. In England, you can use the Reserves, which we used to try to develop youngsters by gaining experience so they could move up to the first team. Then you have the U18s. Some of these players, especially if they are coming from abroad, must have professional contracts or you run the risk of losing them to other clubs. This was what people often talked about when I was at Liverpool, either through ignorance or ‘bad faith’, that we signed a lot of players when in actual fact many of them were for the younger age groups and some of them I did not know. In Spain, these signings who join the second team or the youth teams are not considered signings for the first team. And it is the same in Italy. Champions League Rules and Regulations Another set of rules that, unfortunately, we always had to take in to account was the local players and home country players for Champions League list. This number has now reached 4 players brought through the club Academy and 4 players of the home country. If you have spent 3 years at the club before you reach 21, you are considered local. Again there are differences. As Coach, if you can, you plan for your team and the sporting director plans for the squad. But as a Manager you have to plan for the future of the club. At Liverpool one of our priorities was to bring players from abroad and sign them 3 years before they reached 21, like Ayala, Pacheco or Insua. In that way, under the rules at the time, they would be considered local players, saving money in transfers and contracts, with the possibility of including them on the Champions League list. In Spain and Europe in general, as a coach, you are only involved in future planning if you keep winning and you are allowed to stay a few years. Few manage to do it. As always, these are opinions emanating from my experience and they look to provide football fans and people who follow our website with views from a different perspective, another point of view which maybe they have not been aware of. Finally, a thought that keeps occurring to me is that although you hear something repeatedly, it is not necessarily the truth. ....Rafa Benitez
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Gaston needs a break.... 2011 copa America .club season ish. 2012 Olympics, club season. Confed cup,club season... He's not not not played or trained for donkeys! This is my theory anyway and I hope that is what poch has recognized andwhy he has given him time to retrain psychologically and physical fitness..With the the second half of the season and the lwc! Make sense?
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Currently on the Coral Coast in Fiji. Woke up at 2 am on the nose and watched the full 95... The mrs wasn't so impressed but was well worth it
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Love Lambo the same as most but agree looks nakerd and a good half yard of the pace, which is the difference between a clear cut chance in this division). Still a real pest and i can see him being a massive asset next year but will come off the bench a bit more . IMHO a perfect time to bring in a quality striker, maybe an international who needs time to adapt and learn - someone that stretches defences as well and can hold up.
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Love it. Grown on me a after watching it on the box a the last few weeks.
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Summer 2012 HCDAJFU Thread - Premier League Special Edition
cjay7 replied to Jimmy_D's topic in The Saints
Not to many players from the relagated teams please..We've got a winning mentality lets keep it that way. -
a definite yes from me. Pace and unpredictability which will inspire others.
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Marek Saganowskis record wasnt too bad when he arrived in January without previous UK experience...... Southampton (Loan) 31 Jan, 07 16 May, 07 Loan App 13 (2) Gls 10 It was after this period when he was less prolific. If Lee does sign and scores just one crucial goal that takes us up (much like Jonno quick did) i will be happy but a return similar to MS and i will be over the moon.
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Brilliant - All the way from Perth. Brilliant
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get well soon dan !!!!!!
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Fontaine...then Maynard. Bit like the Cork then Fox scenario.
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all i remember is staring at draper drill every penalty..
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Excellent
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Very Proud.. Worth staying up till 3.30am for....long trip this Tuesday so looking for much of the same.
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Southampton vs Man U- Australian edition.
cjay7 replied to aussiesaint20's topic in Overseas Saints / Supporters Groups
Hi just moved to Perth.... are there any follows Saints over this way??? Cheers -
Jeff Kenna
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surely AP just doesnt want to condemn Mills to the LB position at such a young stage (which would stunt his development), especially as he has a good cross on him and could potentially be a good traditional winger. Good call if we bring him and Inigo in, would bring a nice bit of balance
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Just down at the NOC today and spotted the yacht the Lady Marina docked just outside. Typed in the name as remembered seeing it in Monaco this time last year and it turns out the owner is Swiss billionaire Sergio Mantegazza. I dont know if theres any link to our Marcus but could be interesting.... A really nice boat if anyones interested come and have a look.
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Winning the last 10 games...Is 80 points enough for play offs?