Saintandy666

Fox was fine today, and played at his level which is very high; but maybe not quite the level we are aiming for. Obviously he isn't as good as our first choice.

I totally agree with you. The House of Lords should absolutely be elected. I was just presenting the other side of the case, and saying an advantage of the current system. Though obviously I disagree with that current system!

Yes, but as I already said parliamentary speaking etc is just one part of a much larger job. And also, many Lords do refrain from speaking on certain issues as it is not their expertise whereas there will be other lords in the house who are expert on that. That is perhaps the one advantage of appointed Lords if done properly, you get people who'd never run for parliament and are highly knowledgable and experienced in their field.

Bit over-egged this is. There is a lot more to being a Lord than sitting in the chamber debating. Same for being an MP, except Lords don't get the funding to support them in the other work they do as a Lord so have to clock in to do that.

To some degree, some let it go. Though the expenses scandal wasn't every MP. And you also have the factor that such claiming was encouraged by the system as a way of topping up their wages which I think most people should admit are low given their responsibilities.

I think you are wrong about MPs. I really don't think they are driven by money... why would you become an MP if you were?! The danger of underpaying an MP though and tightening expenses too far the other way is that you will restrict the pool from which we get our MPs even further.

Something in the structure of that sentence doesn't quite make sense to me, but I think I get what you are saying. How about a compromise? Ban third-party income, but pay MPs a wage that actually reflects their responsibility and skill-set as an MP. How do you feel about that?

By that I mean there is no good time in much of the media and public's eyes for a pay rise, so just get on with it because our MPs are underpaid given the importance of their jobs. And yes, some of them do have earnings from elsewhere, but that's irrelevant to their pay for doing the job of being a member of parliament.

MPs do a very difficult and highly skilled job that the majority of people in this country would probably not be capable of doing. It carries huge responsibilities and pay should reflect that. In my opinion, they are currently hugely underpaid given the importance of their job. Just pay them 100k a year to reflect that and be done with it.

Never got to go the dell either; as was only 8 when it shut. First proper saints game was first season at St. Mary's. Feel like I missed out on a certain era of football stadium as a lot of them are just flatpack now.

I think the real point that was being made is that we could have a say in it, especially given that we seem to be able to beat any of the top teams on our day. We won't be up there come the end of the season. I still think top 8 would be a great achievement, and if we could get 6th, that would be outstanding.

Good stuff. He got a tonne of **** when he first got here, from inside the establishment and out. This is finally acceptance for him, case closed. He can be judged on merit rather than a load of other crap people have been judging him on.

Very much the B side tonight. Suppose it'll be good for some of them to get a run out, but would have been nice to have a couple more first teamers. A cup run would be nice.

Of course we'd play...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/fixtures Looking ahead, seems as if december will be the true test of where we currently stand. I definitely think we are top 10, but top 6 as some are now chatting I am not sure.

First time for everything my dear friend

It will be to the detriment of English football in the long run and therefore Saints if we do not qualify, so would definitely opt for the England win. I'm greedy though, so hoping for both.

I think I'd be tempted to shove Newcastle in that mid-league with us, but except that, it seems spot on to me. Everton clear front runners in our bit though.

What has Margaret Thatcher got to with this? View this as a separate issue on its on seriousness if you have any principles!

Swansea are a very good side and difficult to win against. It certainly won't be straight forward and routine like Palace. Not sure if I can see a win here, but then again we beat Liverpool so why not?!

I like that there was a song about him today. About time, though it was kinda awkward he kicked the ball straight out afterwards!

Well, its certainly easily winnable. We will need to put out more than the B team though.

Meh, not enough games gone yet to declare any statistically sound difference. Let's wait and see how it progresses as the season goes on.

\ You make a good point, and obviously doing that minimises risk in one sense when facing lesser opposition but it increases risk in terms of likelihood of losing.

The question here though is do people think that in depth as to the maths of things. Most electioneering is based on a few soundbites and policies as opposed to detailed analysis of the entire package a particular party would offer.