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Well that's annoying. I called at about 5:50 to be told that there will be no sales to visiting fans on the day and that the tickets had been taken off sale at SMS so there is now no way I can get a ticket. I had to wait until today when I got paid, I decided not to buy over the phone this morning in case the game got called off cos of the weather, and now I can't go unless I buy a ticket on the day in the Leeds end, which I'm not sure I want to do. Still, I seem to be a curse on the team anyway, the only game I have managed to watch all season is the Brighton game and look what happened there!

I appreciate this may be the worng forum to be making such statements, but yes there are. Especially when you are the only Saints fan in a workplace full of Weds/Utd/Barnsley fans.

Only a small percentage of them did in all fairness.

On the flip side of that though, I recently started a new job and I think it's fair to say that about 90% of the workforce here are white, male between 21 & 40 (yes that includes me) and mostly from Sheffield, Rotherham & Barnsley. Sitting in the canteen at lunchtime, the only conversation you will ever hear is football football football.. Now as much as I enjoy watching Saints, I'm not obsessed with football in general, rarely watch Pl or CL games, and don't really enjoy talking about it all the time. I wish there was something else I could talk about on my lunch break but if I try and start a conversation about anything other than football then I generally get met with blank faces.

1 to ask 'Would Adolf Hitler have changed lightbulbs?' thus invoking Godwin's Law.

Well, you know the famous phrase... There's a sucker born every minute.

I just called the ticket office to enquire about availability of tickets on the turnstile. The girl said they are currently not sure if the game is even going to go ahead due to the weather but they wuill know by 5pm today if there will be tickets available on the day provided the game doesn't get called off. Just a heads up for anybody planning on travelling on the off-chance of getting a tickety on the day.

Me. I believe that perpetuating the santa claus myth only serves to create a sense of materialism in kids which is not something that the human race should be proud of. Me and some friends have decided that next year we are going to boycott 'Christmas' and instead celebrate the old Pagan winter solstice festival of Yule on the 21st december. It means we can eat and drink loads but won't be obliged to spend stupid amounts of money on other people buying pointless crap they won't ever use. Bah Humbug!

Ah, yes. That well known 'commie' Maggie Thatcher. I remember the dark shroud of rampant socialism that enveloped the UK during her 12 years in charge.

Interesting piece in the Independent today... http://http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/witnesses-for-the-prosecution-how-blair-is-suffering-trial-by-chilcot-1844259.html

Just watched Brüno Really uncomfortable viewing from the very beginning, but I don't think I have laughed as much as that for a very, very long time. Sacha Baron-Cohen must have balls of steel to put himself in some of the situations he finds himself in during this film. If you thought he was pushing his luck in Borat then in this film he has metaphorically flopped his genitals into a hungry lion's mouth and then flicked his gonads with a wet towel. Quite unbelievable that he got away with a lot of what he did, and surely he must have a few fatwas on him by now, but you simply have to admire his dedication to his 'art'. 9/10

Not entirely true. There is an infinite (well, as near as) amount of clean, renewable energy in the earth beneath our feet. The only problem is the astronomical initial cost of tapping into it which makes it non-viable from a commercial aspect. But I guess that is what has put us in the position in which we now find ourselves: profit being placed above everything else - even the future of civilisation as we know it.

Yes you are right. Sorry I got distracted whilst typing that post and it didn't come out quite how I meant it to. However, even though those deaths are not directly attributable to the coalition forces in Iraq, they can be indirectly attributed to the removal of Saddam Hussein which caused all the in-fighting in the first place. Whatever anybody may think about Saddam, events in the country since he was toppled have shown that he was absoultely correct when he claimed that 'the only way to rule Iraq is with an iron fist'.

WhhhhHHHHHOOOOoooooooossshhhhhhhhhhh!

http://http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8397625.stm According to his wife, he was planning on writing a book exposing how the flawed intelligence was grossly over-exaggerated. As far as Blair and his cronies were concerned, he had to be silenced. My immediate reaction when I heard that he had been found dead was that he must have been assassinated as he was the only person who could prove that Blair's reasons for going to war were a lie. I did think at the time that surely, in this day and age, that kind of high-level corruption including the murder of witnesses could never take place in a civilised society, but as I have grown a lot older since then, and subsequently become more cynical, I have nop doubt that that kind of evil exists not only in the world, but in the British government. It makes me sad to realise that, but it is an inescapable truth. I have no doubt that Blair has the blood of Dr Kelly on his hands every bit as much as he does the blood of the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who have died at the hands of coalition forces since 2003. All in my humble opinion, of course. And to think he now calls himself a christian! How does he think he is going to be allowed into heaven when he is nothing more than a war criminal?

Quite. It also angers me in the current economic climate where so many have lost their jobs and face financial ruin, to see greedy ****s demanding more, more, more; when they should really be considering themselves lucky that they have actually still got jobs.

Crikey - only 7 posts? That has to be a record that even Godwin himself couldn't have predicted!

... admits he would have gone ahead with the invasion of Iraq regardless of whether or not the WMD claim was true as he believes it was 'the right thing to do'... http://http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8409596.stm He is quoted as saying... So in other words, he was hell-bent on following Bush into the conflict and has now effectively admitted that he would have told the house of commons any old bullsh*t in order to push the motion through. Personally, I think he should face charges for lying to parliament.

I work with a couple of Wednesday fans and they were expecting this at the beginning of last week. They knew they were going to get tonked at Leicester and fully expected to be hunting for a new manager by monday. They were talking about who they should get in and one of them mentioned they should get Big 'Racist Ronnie' Ron back :smt040

So you will quite happily just (metaphorically anyway) stick your fingers in your ears and shout "LA-LA-LAAAA" will you St George? You'll just quite happily get on with your high-energy consuming lifestyle and to hell with anybody who dares to suggest that maybe it's not sustainable? The point that I and many others have been trying to make throughout the course of this thread is that until we know for sure whether or not human activity is having a detrimental effect on the climate, we should exercise caution. But the mentality that you are advocating is that we should all just carry on the current unsustainable path of greed and consumerism in the hope that it will all work out OK in the end. It won't - I promise you that. If mankind continues with our current level of resource-consumption, then this world will cease to be habitable to the human race in the not-too-distant future, and our 'civilisation' (if yo can really call it that without questioning the wisdom of it) will crumble. The biggest mistake you are consistently making is believing that everybody who believes in the possibility of MMCC is 100% behind the government initiatives regarding 'green tax', which I can assure you is not the case. But then I guess it is difficult for you, when you see the world in such black and white terms, to distinguish the many shades of grey in between. We, that is the entire human race, have a responsibility to future generations to leave this planet in a better condition from how we found it. We owe it to our children, and their children, and their children to make sure that the world we are bringing them into is habitable. If that means making certain sacrifices in our current way of life then that is the way it has to be. That is how human beings lived for hundreds of thousands of years before capitalism created a 'ME! ME! ME!' mentality in the world's pouplation. The US is by far the worst country in the world for this attitude. But hey, if you want to continue with your gung-ho, relentless energy consumption without the slightest regard for the world around you then I guess there is nothing that I or anybody else can say to make you see things differently. I take my leave of you now. Clearly this is a futile argument and as of this moment I am placing you on my ignore list so I can continue to appreciate this thread with people who are capable of actually debating the issues properly. Have a nice christmas y'all.

I like this bit at the end... Now maybe I'm just experiencing Deja Vu, but I'm sure I have heard all that somewhere before in the not too distant past. If I could just put my finger on where...

Once again, you give further proof, if any were needed, what a small-minded moron you are St G. Firstly, none of the proposals I have seen or heard or read recently (and it's been hard to ignore lately due to the Copenhagen summit) involve the world having to go back to a victorian lifestyle. Quite the opposite in fact, most of the new green technology that is being proposed would in fact take the world forward rather than back. Nice try though. Secondly, with regards to the Telegraph article, all it proves is that we have a a handful of scientists making claims about the climate, one of whom admits that his group has in the past received funding from ExxonMobil, without one single piece of evidence to back up their claims - not a single graph or explanation of where their data came from; not one report on their findings or published paper to indicate how they came to these conclusions - and you fall for it hook, line and sinker as if what they are stating is absolute fact that proves beyond any doubt that you are right, and those of us who are open-minded enough to accept the possibility of MMCC are utterly wrong. Dear oh dear.

Dear god, I cannot stand that woman. She proved what a small-minded idiot she is during last year's presidential election campaign, and she has done nothing to change my view on that since. What she is effectively saying here is that the world should ignore all scientific evidence pointing to MMCC just so that Americans can continue to enjoy cheap fuel. Really thinking long term there aren't you Sarah!

Or what about this, touchable holograms!.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3seTlvQtIgc&feature=related

Well not quite... Quite an amazing scientific development IMO.