Sheaf Saint

Before someone else does... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDW_Hj2K0wo

Taking into account the fact that he considered the Blair/Brown Nu Labour government to be socialist, I rather suspect he doesn't.

And I am not in the least bit shocked that you have managed to turn yet another thread into a rant about socialism. If someone started a thread about flowers in springtime you would find a way to blame socialist marxist leftist communist yoghurt-knitting tree-hugging hippies for getting them banned in some way. Change the record for once, eh?

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6 music is a fantastic radio station and I'm glad it has been granted a reprieve BBC news, even if some people question its political allegiances, is widely regarded as one of the best news broadcasters in the world Local BBC radio gives us Saints coverage Loads of live music events and showcasing of new musical talent (Glastonbury coverage included)

You seem to have a very selective memory Corp. Do you not recall coming on here and boasting about how the new owners were going to get Maradonna in as an ambassador and sign Riquelme? Because everyone else does.

So this has descended into a "I know more about world history than you" thread has it? Great....

If his life was some kind of dark sitcom then yes, I agree that his shocking ignorance of the reality of people's lives would be in some way humorous; but it is not. This is the real royal family of the 21st century we are talking about here, and that's what makes his very existence at the expense of taxpayers so objectionable.

The Prince angered local residents in Lockerbie when on a visit to the town in 1993, he said to a man who lived in a road where 11 people had been killed by wreckage from the Pan Am jumbo jet: "People usually say that after a fire it is water damage that is the worst. We are still trying to dry out Windsor Castle." At the height of the recession in 1981 he said: "Everybody was saying we must have more leisure. Now they are complaining they are unemployed." Dune, are you seeeeeriously trying to tell me you don't think these two statements from him show him to be living in an unreality bubble? Seriously?

Is it really any wonder that people take issue with the royals when they are that badly out of touch with reality?

Will be interesting to see how Sheff Wednesday get on with their court case against HMRC today. Follow it here... http://twitter.com/bbc_matt

You really are a tool aren't you dune. Why does anti-royal automatically mean communist? Seriously, please explain that to me.

That's because the BBC, in particular, have a clause in their charter demanding that they blow as much sunshine up the arses of the royal family as they can at every possible opportunity.* *This may or may not have any basis in fact.

Whoop-de-doo. Some rich aristocrat is getting married. I really couldn't be less interested. Actually, that's a bit unfair. Although I am very much anti-royal, I do think William is alright. He's obviously had a very cosseted upbringing, but he does come across as a lot more grounded than most of the eccentrics in his family. If we insist on keeping the monarchy then I would rather that the crown was passed straight to him than to his lunatic dad when Liz finally pops her clogs.

http://newsthump.com/2010/11/15/audley-harrison-sorry-for-hitting-david-haye/

Don't forget though, he accused McLaren of deliberately sabotaging his title chances because they didn't want him to take the number one status with him when he moved back to Renault. And I'm not so sure they did treat him that badly. They gave him a car that was capable of winning the championship, he was just miffed that Hamilton was too good to just be a number-two driver.

Didn't you see him shaking his fist at Petrov on the slow-down lap? Seemingly just because he drove well enough to keep Alonso behind him for the whole race.

well, fair play to Vettel really. He has made his fair share of mistakes this year, and a better driver would have sewn up the title well before today with that Red Bull car which was by some distance the best on the grid this year, but he is still very young and exceptionally talented so I think he deserves it. I hate to admit it, as I find him to be an odious, petulant cry-baby; but I genuinely believe that Alonso has been by far the best driver this year. He comprehensively beat his team-mate, who is no slouch himself, in a car that was perhaps not as fast as the RBRs or the McLarens, and if Ferrari can close the pace gap on the front teams with next year's car then I think he will be the man to beat next season. Just one random thing that occurred to me, while we were being treated to the German national anthem for the umpteen billionth time in F1, what would happen at the races in Abu Dhabi and Bahrain if an Israeli driver ever won there????

Wishful thinking? Why would you say that? You never cease to amaze me dune, really. You think that just because there is a report in the Mail that Iraq, and I quote: 'is poised to become a tourism hotspot' that life is now better for the everyday people living there? Just because a few small areas have been made safe enough for some middle-class foreign sightseers, ordinary life is now better for everyone? The estimated figure for Iraqis killed as a direct result of the invasion is around 600,000. Saddam may have been a despot, but I would wager my house that the large majority of those people would still be alive today had the invasion not taken place. But hey, that doesn't matter, because privileged westerners can now go on a Daily Mail tour of some ancient monuments which would never have been allowed under the Ba'athist regime. I think you need to re-examine your priorities dune.

Oh come now, be fair - it really was Petrov's fault after all. No... wait... Yeah you're right. Alonso is a ****

The reason you don't see news reports about it any more is because it now happens on such a regular basis that it isn't even newsworthy any more. The country may have a democratically (and i use the word in the loosest possible terms) elected government now, all safe inside their emerald city bubble; but throughout the rest of the country there is a religious war going on that has only surfaced since the 2003 invasion. Getting rid of Saddam may have been a juts and noble cause, but I can't help but think he may have actually been right when he claimed that the only way to rule Iraq is with an iron fist, as most of the secular violence was kept under the surface during his reign. Then there is the ironic fact that Al-Qaeda are now operating in Iraq because of the occupation (there is no piece of credible evidence that they even existed in the country prior to the invasion after all) and the mass unemployment due to the fact that most people were employed by the government before the 'intervention' but now have no jobs because a lot of the government agencies were disbanded by Bremer's interim administration, and most of the government owned factories were looted and had no funds to re-build so were forced to close. So I really am struggling to understand how, unless you are a Haliburton employee, you can possibly arrive at the conclusion that the invasion of Iraq 'worked out well'.

Although he was universally ridiculed on here, maybe he was right all along???

I don't have all the answers. It is a difficult situation and difficult to know what would be the best way forward for the Burmese people. My initial gripe was that dune seemingly only cares about the potential profits for UKPLC if Burma were to somehow remove the military junta and install a democratically elected government; whereas I believe that, much more importantly, such an event would bring an end to the misery and suffering of the oppressed working classes of Burma. I guess that highlights perfectly the difference between Dune's world view and my own. I care about humanity, and dune apparently only cares about profit.

Benefits to who? Like I said previously, it is the poor and the working class people of any country that are always the last to see any benefit from the mineral wealth. Look at Nigeria, Iraq, Sierra Leone... the list goes on. If, as dune is advocating, foreign mining companies invest in Burma with its current government still in charge, the chances of the working classes actually seeing any benefit from that are virtually nil.