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The two scenarios are completely different Delldays. The whole point of the recent student protests was to make the government aware of just how strongly they felt about the new policies. It was never actually going to influence the government's decision, and I do not in any way condone the violence and vandalism that occurred on these marches, but they have the right to protest about government policy. If you try to apply the same reasoning to the EDL marches then it just makes no sense. For one thing, Islamic extremism is not a government policy (not that I'm aware of anyway). Marching against Islamic extremists just to show them how much their ideas are disliked? Do you really think for one second that radical muslims are going to see the TV footage of one of their marches and think "Oooh, you know what - they're right! I think I'm going to cancel my plans to blow myself up because these kind-hearted people have shown me the error of my ways!"? Do me a favour. What's far more likely is they will see these idiots wearing balaclavas and proudly displaying the Israeli flag and they will actually become more angry and more determined to carry out whatever Jihadist plans they may have. And dune, please don't try and tell me they only display the Star of David 'to prove they are not anti-semitic'. Even someone as narrow-minded and myopic as you cannot seriously believe that can you? Its purpose is to provoke and you know that damn well.

What good is marching through the streets of Britain with a bunch of thugs though dune? What is it actually going to achieve? As far as I know, there is nobody on this forum who actually supports the position of Islamic extremists (at least, I hope there isn't) but I fail to see how going on a march alongside a group of people with criminal records for violence is going to make the slightest bit of difference. As I said earlier, the marches (just like the planned marches by Islam4UK etc...) are intended purely for provocation and are totally counter-productive IMO. So I will ask for a third time... If the EDL really are a non-racist organisation whose goal is to educate the public about the dangers of radical Islam, what other initiatives do they have in place to convey this education?

I'm sorry you don't appreciate the irony of an anonymous man wearing a white hood proclaiming to be non-racist.

Will you be answering my question any time soon? Or will you continue to avoid it like you did when I asked you about David Cameron's environmental policies?

So I'll ask you once again, although you appear to show a politician-like skill for ducking difficult questions that you can't answer... What initiatives, other than pointless marches for the sake of provocation, are the EDL taking to 'stand up against extremism' and educate the public about it?

Are you for real dune? Seriously? You post a video of a man in white hood, who clearly does not want to be identified, claiming that his organisation is non-racist, and you expect people to agree with you? Sheesh! Edit: I notice he uses the word 'hate' a few times during that interview. Doesn't that give you a good idea why people aren't falling over themselves to support these people?

So tell me dune... Other than organising marches which invariably result in violence, what measures are the EDL taking to educate the public about the dangers of radical Islam? Are they working with local communities to engage with young muslims about it? Are there any publications or courses available to get this education across? Perhaps they organise workshops or outreach programmes etc... I read through section 3 above and, despite being four paragraphs long, it doesn't outline in any detail what initiatives are being taken to promote this education. It seems to me that the only thing they are interested in is organising these public demonstrations that don't appear to have any purpose other than provocation.

I think so. It didn't matter to pompey that he would have 'costa' fortune in wages, but I don't think he liked the rotten smell around the stadium.

So would you say then that flying the flag of Israel is not intended purely to incite anger from muslims? And why don't we ever see these 'coloured people' (as you so crudely and ignorantly put it) joining in their demonstrations?

How many pointless rule-changes are we looking at this year then? Also, will all the cars have KERS this season?

The only way I can see this is ever going to stop is if everyone boycotts Sky and cancels their subscription. The money would soon dry up and the clubs who have spent based on their future earnings from the Sky deal would end up with huge unmanageable debts. Sadly, as long as people keep accepting the extortionate cost of Sky subscription and ticket prices the madness will continue. It's all about supply and demand.

Of all the bigoted, moronic drivel you have posted on this site over the years dune, you really have stooped to a new low with this one.

As if he didn't know that they needed to get him off the wage-bill as quickly as possible. Absolute bullsh1t!

Yeah this is exactly how I felt towards the end. A replay was the last thing we needed with all the re-arranged games from december to contend with as well.

The referee might as well have had a Man Yoo shirt on. Every time a Saints player so much as made the slightest bit of contact with one of theirs he gave them a free kick for it (one particularly stupid one lead indirectly to their first goal) and gave us absolutely nothing. There was a point in the second half when Guly was cynically shoved in the back when running through their defense and if it had been the other way he probably would have got a card out but he didn't even blow for the foul. Shocking stuff. On a positive note though, I thought we were the better team for the first 60 minutes but maybe ran out of steam a bit and when you've got a player like Giggs on the bench who can single-handedly change a game then you've always got a great chance of getting back into it. While I was hoping we might get an equaliser towards the end, I'm actually quite glad that it didn't go to a replay so overall it's probably the best result we could have hoped for. Showed a worldwide audience that we can mix it with the best team in England (although they did rest a few of their star players) and now free to concentrate on the all-important goal of promotion. Well done lads. proud of you all.

Thanks for that Buctootim. Looks like we will need to get it sorted before the MOT then. The crack is not in the drivers field of vision but it's a lot bigger than 40mm.

http://newsthump.spreadshirt.co.uk/richard-keys-charm-school-A14925789/customize/color/66 :lol:

My girlfriend's car is due for its MOT but there is a crack in the windscreen that we haven't got round to sorting out yet. Would that mean an automatic MOT failure?

It is with some remorse that I worked for one of these companies when I was a skint student looking to earn some pennies. Didn't realise they were still going to be honest. The score is this: they call you up and tell you that you've won an award (when in fact they have just picked your name out of the phone book) just to catch your attention, and you have to come along to one of their presentations to qualify for it. When you get there they will give you the hard sell on a timeshare and then tell you that you will have to pay some sort of admin fee to claim the award which, upon deeper inspection, will also have loads of catches and added extras not included in the price which will end up costing you more money. Stay well away is my advice.

What makes me laugh is when you get these mongs coming on saying they have come with a 'strategy' and they believe that it will make them rich. FFS - you're just opening boxes at random with no possible idea what they contain. There's not a strategy in the world that will help you you morons. I'd love to just go on there and open all the boxes in numerical order just to annoy Edmonds. Sadly though I have a 3-digit IQ so I wouldn't have a chance of getting picked.

I don't see why not. By all accounts Mr Cortese is a stern businessman and there is no room for sentimentality when it comes to doing what's right for your business. Plus, after the initial offer is made then I doubt that Pardew would have any involvement in the deal anyway.

Only in ice form. It's not exactly easily accessible.

Yeah that's a brilliant idea, because there's millions of acres of arable land and fresh water on Mars isn't there. Oh, hang on....

Has anybody stopped to consider that maybe, just maybe, yesterday's defeat was actually the fault of the players and not the manager? Just a thought....