Dibden Purlieu Saint

This is part 2 of the thread. I didn't want to re-write what was said in my first thread, so go have a look at that one.

He's got you there Charlie

Exactly this. Me and Saint Charlie have been at loggerheads since the early Summer, but you know what, we get on with it, and if we disagree, we disagree, we don't go out and WUM people for the hell of it. I have been wrong, I will be wrong again, but I have also been right, and will be right again. If people articulate their opinions well then I am more than happy to take them on board or debate them, but it seems that's not what you're trying to do.

So what's wrong with the OP then? Or my analysis on previous threads where I have explained why I think he should have been removed from his post? He had precided over one of the worst starts in Premier League History with the worst defence in Premier League History through over 25% of the season. Please tell me, reading that, where I was being unreasonable.

Of course it is, and at the beginning of the season you go through the fixtures and identify the matches we should be winning. And that is surely one of them.

QPR at home are better than Fulham away with the number of injuries Fulham had and the fact that Fulham are notoriously horrific away.

I wasn't making a point, I was asking a question...confused.

Well the insinuation was that you were, otherwise why did you reply to me? Surely just replying to the thread or the OP would be the correct thing to do? In general, I think the points you are making are correct, but I also believe that blooding Rodriguez, the strange substitutions (imho of course) have cost us games. I also disagree that I don't think he has been consistent in his decision making, but I take your point on board.

It's not a u-turn, it's giving praise where deserved. If I criticise, then I also have to have the humility (look the word up, you should get some) to praise him as well for decisions he gets correct. Why are people struggling with the concept that you can constructively criticise and praise the same person?

It will, but I still believe he's not good eough. We should be looking at Lucas Biglia. He'd do the job needed for a moderate fee and wage.

I welcome him to, I think he's embarrassing himself really.

So if you don't think we should be winning games like Swansea at home, then who should we be beating?

Because he was replying to me? What's wrong with you?

Completely, but he took a long time to do it don't you think? 10 games into the season...

I think he's lost it. Even the normal supporters of his type of post aren't defending him...

No shoehorning Rodriguez in, bringing on Guly when not needed etc? You haven't noticed that? I'm not saying we're fixed. Far, far from it. But Adkins has changed his selections and decisions. What we don't know is what changed this attitude of actually playing to our strengths.

How many? Plenty apparently.

I didn't criticise against Swansea I don't think, so find this confusing...

Did I write 'fanny', I can't believe I used that word, very unlike me... But did you read the threads and the points behind them. He was out of his depth as he wasn't learning from his mistakes. He had also displayed no recognition of the mistakes he was making, so I believe Nic needed to act decisively. I still don't believe he has sorted out our defence, do you? I would have taken Redknapp and still would. The buck does have to stop with the manager, it always does in football. I don't understand what your point is? Where did I mention those Managers above? If you haven't noticed we are still in the bottom 3. I have just complimented the Manager on his change of direction and the fact that it seems to have worked. I am by no means saying that we are safe or anything, but it does seem that NA is now making the correct decisions (all imho of course).

Completely, we have improved immeasurably, and I am much happier for it and I agree that NA's positivity has to help a lot. By the way, amazing support Saturday, proper kept the team going!

I don't think you understood the threads, or didn't read them properly...

Well it isn't really, but why does that advocate replacing NA with one of those?

1. I wasn't at the games, but no I wouldn't have joined in. 2. No, I didn't find it strange as people see football in different ways. It's their opinion and they're allowed to have it!? I understand there are fans out there that would prefer to go down with NA at the helm than stay up with someone else. I get that. What I don't get is why people on these boards try to surpress opposing opinions. It's not something I would do, so why do others. My agenda is simple. I want Saints to be as succesful as popular. The first 10 games of the season I didn't understand what we were trying to do, and the way NA was setting the team out. People always said judge him after 10 games. After 10 games we were bottom. I feel I was well within my rights to criticise decisions that seemed strange to me.

You're going through and making stuff up Dig-Dig. You say plenty yet you don't want to give examples. You won't accept that he has made mistakes tactically this season and that people are allowed to criticise the manager for this. Taking off your 3 best and most dangerous players against United, especially one that holds the ball up so well and is our only outlet for releasing the pressure is idiotic. The point is we didn't concede 2 goals, and the balance wasn't lost from the team when he went off. So what's your point? You're playing a hypothetical game that no one wins, and no real point can be made from.

2 of our best players but not best performers on the day. Ramirez was subbed as he'd played and travelled during the week and was knackered, rightly so. Lambert was taken off in the 90th minute when we had a two goal lead. However, I didn't see him remove Puncheon and Cork when we had a 1 goal lead, the same way he did when removing Puncheon, Lallana and Lambert against Man United. Surely you realise the difference between these two situations. Also, I'd like you to show me where people suggested bringing in these managers (and being serious about it).