Whitey Grandad

It's symbolic of our decline as a country.

Stop the count!

2025 - World Misplaced Nostalgia Year

And to me. If you can't see the difference then I guess we can all live with that. It's the attempt to interpret the results as having any significance that I find annoying.

Quirk

Give over, those aren't statistics, they are results.

Yep. You got it. A few promotions here and there perhaps. For most of the time just not getting relegated is all we could hope for.

Finishing 8th was a statistical quirk. I sum the season up as won nothing, achieved nothing.

Whoever it was, we wouldn't finishh anywhere near 8th if we only managed 46 points. As for the rest, "more than matching" is a long stretch considering that we were well beaten.

Those circumstances don't relate to any discussion about a team that finishes eighth in the table. Certainly not in any discussions relating to 'better' or 'worse'. The devil is in the detail. If a team finishes top (or bottom) by a wide margin then they could quite fairly be described as best or worst. Just to reiterate for those who are still awake or may even care about such things, we managed 46 points that season. The previous season we achieved 63 points yet for some inexplicable reason there are some people who think it was a fabulous achievement to get 46 points. Six teams finished in the range 44 to 46 points. Over the course of the season that difference amounts to less than the width of a goalpost. The team that finished above us in seventh place got 15 points more than us with a goal difference that was 25 goals better than ours. Any quantitative assessment of that season would say that what we did was nothing to get excited about.

That's a non sequitur. A table is only a list of figures and has no opinion. It is only when someone tries to make an inference from those figures that they can come to misleading conclusions.

We are not talking about a team that finished top.

The eighth not very good set.

Neither of those is true.

Yes they did. I was there and often lie awake at night thinking about it.

We wouldn’t have won anything in November.

I bet he didn't see that coming.

I don't see why he couldn't. Did he play in any European games?

Points are a reflection of results.

It wasn't all that good. And don't get me started on the way he treated Fonte in our European campaign.

Remind me again how many points we got. I'm fairly certain that we've had more points a lot more that in out history.

Don't blame me. I'm not the one who sleeps under a Claude Puel bedspread.

In Japanese it's a combination of two words. The 'da' part refers to a field, particularly a rice paddy, and the first part of the surname refers to the position that the person occupies in that field and hence their social status. There are many other examples of surnames ending in 'da' Yoshida, Yamada, Toyoda, Genda, Fukuda and so on. I'm not sure about Yoda though. The Japanese word 'Ton' means 'pig' or 'pork' , apparently.

Then leave things as they are.

Define 'successful'