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'Based on those performances' - LOL. If you think that either of those teams will be playing like that come the real thing then think again. Christ - the barney they had was cos someone dared to put a tackle in. Watch a Mexico v USA qualifying game. USA have to fight for their lives in that one. It's hostile with tackles flying in all over the place. USA can look after themselves when they have to. They don't have much choice down there! Think Scotland v England in Glasgow with no away fans. USA will def give England a good game on Saturday. Anyone who thinks otherwise is going to be a bit surprised. That said the bookies have it as: England 1/2 Draw 10/3 USA 13/2 so what do I know? Those odds seem to indicate and easy win for England...

Gutted. That sucks. I guess the lesson to learn here is not to put a 'win only' into an E/W accum. Hindsight is great though ain't it... Bets you thought you'd won but you didn't... I remember I used to do E/W accums on the horses. Finally one came in (all got a place). I'd worked it out that I'd win a couple of grand - result!!! Got about a tenner or whatever. Not such a result. I thought that you took what a win accum would pay and get ie a quarter of that. Not that you just get a quarter of the odds on each race. Trust me - this makes a big difference to the pay out! You live and learn... I've rarely bothered with E/W since. Dog - you need to start a 'League Winners 2010/2011' thread nearer the start of the season. A few of us will follow your tips (bar the Scottish Prem of course).

My mate is a spitting image of AP. AP best not leave cos it'll screw up any chance of doing the close-season gag where quite a few mates go up to him to get his autograph (prob somewhere like the middle of Southampton precinct). Then enjoy watching him sign away for strangers until someone susses him out. Childish - but wouldn't you try it for a laugh?

http://www.skybet.com/skybet?action=GoEvType&id=10002896 I do love these books. Some names seem just to be compulsory to be added to any 'next manager' odds. Trevor Brooking at 50/1 is the value bet. It's gonna happen one day at West Ham. It would sell a lot of season tickets. Grant A 4/9 Hughes M 6/1 Bilic S 6/1 McLeish A 7/1 Curbishley A 12/1 Jol M 12/1 Hoddle G 16/1 Pardew A 16/1 ****** Pearson N 16/1 Jones D 20/1 Manzano G 25/1 Di Canio P 25/1 Venables T 33/1 Lambert P 33/1 Coppell S 33/1 O'Leary D 40/1 Burley G 40/1 Reid P 40/1 Souness G 50/1 Brooking T 50/1 *********** Jewell P 50/1 Southgate G 50/1 Eriksson S 50/1 Houllier G 66/1 Shearer A 66/1 Gullitt R 66/1 Ince P 66/1 Adams T 66/1 Rijkaard F 66/1 Wise D 100/1 Mourinho J 100/1 Sheringham T 100/1

Hey Jason. Def not digging at you but saying 1/ 'Ladbrokes' have suspended and 2/ 'Ladbrokes in Woolston' have suspended are def 2 totally diff things. 1/ - A national bookie has said 'enough is enough' 2/ - Some mush/bird sat behind a counter in a local bookie really can't be arsed to make a phone call through to find out a price on some krankie bet so just fob the punter off. It's a bit like in the old days going to HMV and asking the mush behind the counter when the new Suburban Filth EP was due in. 'It's in on Tuesday' he would say. That would be pretty impressive seeing as it wasn't even recorded yet! As previous people have said I doubt very much if Labrokes have a book at all on 'will Pardew leave Saints' - let alone closed it. If I was doing the book I may well go: To manage Saints at the start of season 2010/2011 Any other 1/2 Pardew 6/4 I think he'll prob be gone but it has got f**** all to do with the non-existant current Ladbrokes book!!!

http://www.rebellionfestivals.com/index.php?page=bands Aug 5-8 Blackpool. Best long weekend of the year - bar none.

Funny. This even made the last story on the evening CBS News here in the USA. Think BBC 6pm news. They laughed at it. Laughing cos they couldn't believe a politician could be so naive to say something bad on mic. All politicians are 2-faced c***s. Even the one *you* like. This tw*t just got caught out. I actually think he was lucky in that he got caught saying something not *too* bad. Could have been a lot worse. At least he said 'bigot' and not 'northern'.

I didn't wanna be a f**** glory supporter anyway.

For anyone wanting to follow the Totton (or any other non-league team) then this is a great live videprinter: http://nln24.com/vidiprinter/live Totton equalised straight after half time. Currently 2-2. Come on you mighty Stags!!!

I'm a VT fan - well until the end of tonight's game anyway.

Now that is actually pretty cool. Just when you think you've seen everything in football something comes along that you've never seen before. Great call by the ref/linesman to disallow it.

Thing is. I still do!!! Just like back then everyone (who wasn't a glory supporter) hated Liverpool FC (for the younger viewers think of the current Man Utd, Chelsea & Arsenal teams rolled into one - you either supported your local team or Lpool). Lpool are still my most hated team and Steve Davis is still my most hated snooker player. I guess old habits diehard for myself....

Take it none of you remember Davis from the early to mid 80's then? Christ - he made Dennis Taylor look like a fluent player - hence 19 million people staying up til 1am in 1985 to see Davis lose. If everyone had played snooker like Davis did in his 'prime' then you wouldn't be watching it now. Luckily there were players like Jimmy White, Alex Higgins & Tony Drago who actually made the game worth watching. He may have re-invented himself since then but he is still a c**** of the highest order.

So say Celtic were 2/1 and you included them in an E/W accum. They win. You'd then get that 2/1 in the win part of your accum AND the E/W part of it? Fair enough - didn't know that. Still doesn't seem quite right but if that is the way it works - then that is the way it works.... When you find out for sure can you let us know. Cheers.

In this case does it actually matter? You did 2 bets. A win accum and an E/W accum. You couldn't do E/W on the Scottish Prem so that wasn't part of the E/W accum. As WBA screwed up the win part of the accum then surely it didn't matter who the hell won the Scottish Prem - the bet was down regardless. You get paid on 4 team E/W accum: 21/10, 11/2, 6/1, 11/2 At 1/4 the odds a place that will pay about 10/1. Better than a kick in the shucks. I could be speaking sh*t here but that's the way I see it. Let me know what actually happens. I'd be interested to hear... In hindsight you will be very thankful that your judgement of Newcastle's chances were very wrong. If WBA had won the league then your choosing of Celtic instead of Rangers would have cost you a small fortune!

http://www.skybet.com/skybet?action=GoEvEv&id=12228256 They've only priced up 6 teams so far. Us being 4/1 favs: Southampton 4/1 Notts Co 12/1 Peterborough 12/1 Plymouth 12/1 Rochdale 25/1 Bournemouth 25/1 Assuming we keep the same great set up during the close season I can see 4/1 being hard to get come the start of next season. That said - would having Leeds & Sheff Weds in the same league make our odds larger than 4/1? Dunno - it's a hard one to call. Please nobody say that the 4/1 is just between those 6 teams. If it was then they are the best prices ever in the history of betting!! We'd all be rich.

Come on Saints!!! Just get a mother-f****** goal!!!!! (please)

Nice link. Good penalty & I'd forgotten how good a goal the 3rd one was (by Holmes). Le Tiss would have been proud of that!

Agreed. I've just watched a fair few old games I hadn't seen for ages. The one I enjoyed most was this one - I won't give the score away in case someone doesn't know it. It obviously does have a happy ending but man, did we make it hard for ourselves... Man Utd v Saints. FA Cup 1992: Was this Branfoot's finest hour? Stuart Gray scoring as well. (shame about the Pompey goal at the end of this but ho-hum - they lost in the end). Thanks to the people who are putting these up on YouTube. Great stuff. As for best ever Saints goal? Can't disagree with the OP. That goal had everything.

Well as good as some streams are - they don't start playing the game until it actually starts in 'real life'. They have to have the pre-match (including ads etc) as well! The pre-match build up has been fine on this site - I assume the game will be as well (when it actually kicks off).

Game is streaming here well at the moment: http://atdhe.net/17458/watch-hudders...vs-millwall-fc Anyone got any others in case it disappears?

Only just - if at all: http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/league-one/huddersfield-v-millwall/win-market Some bookies have them both at the same the price. The draw at 12/5 is screaming out at me. I ain't gonna back it though as I never back what I don't want to happen. Come on Millwall.

This will prob end up doing the rounds (if it hasn't already). http://www.waccoe.com/index.php?showtopic=179966 Gist of: Some Leeds fan posts on their board a DEAD CERT of a match fix - and a probable other one. His Italian uncle know these things - or does he?

10 'Number 6' and a can of Watneys Red? Gotta be worth a go ain't it?

Come on you REDS indeed. Then just won 2-1 with a late run to send the Card scum home crying!