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Wasn't he initially supposed to out until the new year? If we signed another keeper along withe Stek then we'd have 3 supposedly quality keepers come the new year. We had two good keepers with Boruc & Forster but Boruc didn't want to be second choice. I don't think it's quite as easy as many make out to just collect so many quality goalkeepers, Arsenal have struggled for years to recruit decent goalkeepers. If we signed another then I'd have thought we'd have to push kd and or gazza out the door, maybe at least a loan out for gazza and an approach for alex mccarthy would have been good.

1 Forster 2 Steklenberg 3/4 Davis/Gazza Forster might be injured at the moment, but he's till very much a saints player. It would be great if we had another class goalkeeper to choose from, but in reality top goalkeepers are 1 - going to want to play regularly, and 2 - going to want big wages. Not sure who we could have realistically signed to who would have been the right calibre? Especially when there's already gazza and kelvin on the books. If Steklenberg also picked up a long term injury then I'd expect us to get someone else in.

Any decent highlights online? Skysports have some, but at 1 min 40 seconds long I was hoping there might be something a little more substantial, 5 mins worth at least?

I agree, it was a shame that we didn't have enough money to sign eriksen, is there a link to the article?

In terms of public facilities weather it be education, health care, infrastructure, housing it doesn't really matter where the population increase comes from? Simply supply and demand, if EU migrants are here working and asylum seekers are given the right to work (and various studies show that overall migrants are contributing massively to the economy) then they are all paying into the government coffers through taxes that should be finding it's way back into public services, if it's not then it's the government that's at fault, not migrants.

That figure's meaningless. You realise the likes of Boris Johnso, John Barnes, Emma Watson, Eddie Izard, Bradley Wiggins even Andrew Surman (list goes on and on but don't have time) were all born abroad and therefore included in that figure along with many others who are equally as 'British'. A few weeks ago the right wing would hardly even acknowledge the existence of refugees, preferring to paint everyone wanting to come into Europe as economic migrants looking to scrounge off the state, a couple more high profile deaths and and now everyone's compassionate. I don't think anyone's suggesting the UK take on the entire population of Syria, but it could certainly do far more than it is to tackle the problem at source and in the meantime stand with other european countries in giving refugee to those who need it.

Firstly, I reject your suggested use of words, thanks for correcting me, but I think it reads better the original way. Is barracking even a word? I feel my post made more sense than yours. I'm not even sure what point your trying to make in the opening paragraph. I never suggested that refugees couldn't be sheltered because of 1980's tory policy. I'd suggested that the reason's for the shortage in housing and the poor performance of the railways (infrastructure), which you'll no doubt blame on immigration started then and have been getting worse since. And you're right Labour didn't fix the growing problem of inadequate public transport and the housing shortage. But the Government's asset stripping then was a short term gain and a slow long term failure for successive governments. That's down to government policy and you must be a pretty sad sap to seriously blame that entirely on inward migration. My reason in mentioning that was that because even no-one entered or left the country we'd still have a growing population because of birth rates, and more than likely we'd still have a housing shortage and a ****e infrastructure, and that couldn't then be blamed on immigration. You're trying to escape poor government policy by blaming ethnic minorities, I've never suggested we let the entire world's population in (as if they'd even want to come here), but we could easily take a few more refugees. The UK's increasingly poor infrastructure and housing shortage are blamed on foreigners rather than on government policy because it makes for an easier scapegoat. I think the UK could take a lot more refugees than it has done, not millions but a few thousand at the very least. The PM's u-turn and the response of the tabloids has just shown a huge change in people's attitudes overnight, more in line with what the 'looney lefties' had been saying for months. Finally, as if to prove my earlier comment, it's since been the the same handful of posters all over this thread like a rash pushing their anti-foreigner agendas and ganging up on anyone who disagrees.

Radical thinking I know, easier to just pin it on a scapegoat - which foreigners are we blaming this year?

I've got no problem with people from the EU living in the UK, it's of benefit to our economy and our cultural landscape. Given a few years I'd imagine that the rate of inward migration from Eastern Europe would decrease, and if it doesn't I couldn't care less. I don't know why people feel so threatened by foreigners being here, I've said before on these threads that I don't see it as a problem, if anything the UK is much better off for it. If you're gonna pull the tired argument that the UK's infrastructure can't cope, I don't believe that that's down to EU migrants, I'd suggest it's more to do with the government having sold everything off in the 80's and as a result, there's an under performing rail network which makes huge profits for it's owners (often foreign governments) and fails the public, there's little public housing left after the stock was sold off in right to buy schemes and not replaced. And the continued unregulated housing market being treated as an investment opportunity instead of for housing people. Short term Tory policies have got the UK into trouble, not foreign workers, or scroungers as you probably assume they all are. It's not even really a case of the size of the land we inhabit either. I know the UKIPers like to point to Australia or Canada and say how good they've got it with all their space and spare land. Fairer comparisons would be Belgium and the Netherlands which are far more densely populated than the UK and they seem to be surviving just fine. I'm not sure how Eastern Europeans being in the UK has led to refugees spilling out of Syria? I'd have thought we could take tens of thousands of refugees. It should be a source of national pride. It cost £9 billion to host the Olympics. Refugees could be housed for a fraction of the cost, spread all around the country and no one would even notice. There seems to be handful of right wingers on this forum who inevitably shut down any reasonable debate on these threads by barraging any sensible posters with sheer number of posts, the online equivalent of shouting the loudest. You can repeat your views all day long, it won't make them right. And to answer the OP, unfortunately yes I think it is ok to publish the image as it seems to be the only way to get people to realise the situation, there seems to have been a shift in attitudes overnight. Although hypocritical given their stance last week even the Sun & the Mail have suddenly got front pages finally acknowledging that there is a humanitarian crisis on Europe's door step that will need a co-operative Europe wide response.

Just because something's popular, it doesn't mean it's right. The trouble is the issues involved aren't straightforward and the right wing assumption that the refugee crisis can be solved with higher fences at Calais shows that. The UK's previous strategy was to stop saving migrants drowning in the Med, that failed and the failure to try and understand the issues behind the mass migration and address it has led to the mess that Europe and the Middle East currently find themselves in. The Eurosceptics seem to think that freedom of movement means that everybody with the opportunity to live in the UK will do so, but the Romanians and Bulgarians never arrived on mass, and guess what, there's still millions of people in Poland who aren't interested in coming to the UK. To me it's just a repeat of the rhetoric the Daily Mail was spouting about German Jewish refugees in the 40s, different war, different religion but the same popular intolerance in greeting foreign people at a time of need which seems to based on nothing more than a sense of entitlement and selfishness.

Thought Ward-Prowse had a decent game yesterday, did well to win the ball and release mane for our first goal. And would have scored that free-kick right at the start if wasn't for a quality save.

Are you waiting for a ring from OK magazine / Daily Mail to sell these kinky stories? I've never really understood this obsession with 'celebrities'' sex lives. Who cares where they put their willies.

Much as Everton fans are disgruntled at their owners for not investing enough in the club, they are doing something right. They signed Lukaku for big money and he's been a good signing. They've also consistently held onto their players. Baines, Coleman, Barkley have been there for some time despite being linked with moves away. I'm not sure how they do it. It seems like they just value the players more than the money, and they realise as it's not that easy to just go out and replace £20/30 million player. Not sure where Everton finished last year, but they didn't have particularly good season and if they do sell anyone it looks likely to be Stones, but for an absolutely ridiculous fee. I don't think Saints have helped themselves, we seem to have gotten a reputation as somewhere to buy players from, maybe this works against us whereas Everton have a stronger resilience that detracts teams from being linked/interested in their players.

again it looks like the hardest draw we could have got. At least it should be a nice place to visit.

Is the draw for the next round being streamed anywhere?

why would anyone want to go to Disneyland?

Highlights on the BBC site, we start at 2.55. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33695318

It's not as if he's suggested collectivisation. Public ownership of public services works very well in much of Europe, unlike here where the private rail industry is a mess. And if the rich want to bugger off, then I'd say let them bugger off and don't let them operate in the country, their shoes would soon be filled with someone else with a moral compass. Might start to see some social mobility.

Labour at the moment seem to a more mild version of the Tory party, I think if they're to offer any alternative to the tory party then they did to take a different stance and be clear about what it is they represent. They are supposed to a left leaning party. I like Corbyn, I think a bit like Farage he speaks his mind and doesn't come across as another Eton ****** (I've no idea where he was educated, mind) but he comes across to me as far more affable than the usual politician. He seems to have opinions and doesn't just dictate party policy all the time. By losing sight of their principals in the last election labour did awfully. I think with Corbyn they might have chance of gaining a lot of votes from the greens, lib dems, snp and abstainers.

What a load of self-righteous rubbish. How exactly did the British lay down their lives for Cypriots? But fighting against them in a long bloody war of Independence? Suggesting some kind of heroic self sacrifice by an older generation of Brits at attempt to hold onto colonies and occupy foreign lands. The irony here of course being that Cyprus and the Falklands are full of British migrants. Much as I'm sure there are racist bigots in younger generations, as a generalisation I don't doubt that the proportion is much smaller than in older generations. And why do you space out your punctuation in such a bizarre way?

It's good that you've managed to form an opinion on it without watching it.

God's House Tower is being gradually turned into a new arts and heritage space but it takes while for a project like it to be realised. http://www.aspacearts.org.uk/projects/gods-house-tower/#.Vazj1RNViko A use really needs to be found for the Royal Southern Yacht Club it's such a nice building in a great location. I think Solent Uni rent the gallery space in the bargate, and the vaults are all available to hire for events, unfortunately there isn't enough imagination and knowhow from the people of Southampton to utilise the vaults as much as they should be. Something like Southsea Castle's summer champaign bar would be good. http://www.visitportsmouth.co.uk/whats-on/southsea-castle-champagne-bar-p1162891 I don't think any of the above buildings should be sold, but the council should be able to get tenants in.

Ha, how would he know the moron, it's only him who's actually injured. Maybe his doctor's telling him one thing and then telling the tabloids something else. As has been said above the tabloids are always 100% on the money and never make stuff up, even bits of gossip for the football pages in the off-season.

Richmond or... Southampton Central / Airport Parkway?