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Shexy. Well, shexy enough for me. Aha. still sent from my effing nexus 4, but I have found the setting now dammit.

Agree. Was utterly disjointed in our squad the first year, was excellent in the cup games since, and shone evey time he came on in the league in 2014. Even so, I moaned and groaned whenever I saw he warm up or on the time sheet; but he always delivered and shut me up ('til the next time, cos I'm an idiot and it takes me a while...) People that dismiss his work rate were clearly still queuing for pies or watching the highlights after a bevvy or two too many or something! I admit that's how he started, but he worked as hard as anyone (in a very hard working side) second half of the season. If Lallana hadn't come so so very good last season, Gaston would have been first choice anyway. Oh, and he drinks 'special tea', so that tops everything really, obviously.

Absolutely. Spain won the last world cup by scoring 8 goals in total. Germany spunked 7 away against Brasil the other night, which was a shocking waste, idiots. Clearly they will not win. Add a two each from Davis, Reed and McQueen, plus a couple of headers from Fonte and that's 20 games won! Surely top 8 finish again!? Aha. still sent from my effing nexus 4, but I have found the setting now dammit.

Both Duckworth Lewis Method albums are amazing ain't they!? Brilliant to add to a whole load of songs on Random play - suddenly they come on and you're like wtf? And then Oooh yeah! Shuffle gets stopped and the whole record gets played. Strictly Summertime only though!

I remember watching the Divine Comedy at the Joiners Arms years back and Neil doing a beautiful crowd accompanied version of 'My Lovely Horse' with only the faintest smattering of irony! Supporting the mighty Frank and Walters (still one of my favourite bands!)

With the departures of three key players and rumours of others on this here forum, THIS is by far the scariest thing I have read. I really hope I have got the wrong end of the stick here! (He's not coming back is he?) :-o

Crosses! Beats a man and crosses it. Blimey! Aha. still sent from my effing nexus 4, but I have found the setting now dammit.

Tadic exploded with joy and promptly showed his impressive torso to the fans. Coincidence or not, since then, Tadic popular pieces in the female part of Twente... Now THAT is sports reporting. Aha. still sent from my effing nexus 4, but I have found the setting now dammit.

Nice points gents. I don't disagree with any of this. I really like the new shirt, I love the fact it is a return to stripes. But I was never that upset it was plain red (in fact, our willingness as a club over the years to embrace different combinations of red n white is maybe a bit different and sort of saintly. The sash kit is one of my favourite football shirts ever). I am a sad kit obsessive and collect the things, but you (Dean) are right there are some kits I wouldn't wear out n about. Red and White Stripes is one of those colour combos. - I don't think that is unique to Americans! Although the fact their flag is predominantly red n white does suggest they don't HATE it. By the same token I do not feel the stripes will put a wavering sports fan off and would suggest that maybe, because it is a less common sports shirt in the states, it may even pique ones interest when it seen on the big screens out if four or five live games being show in one sports bar! As The9 says hardly anyone outside the club gives a toss. Why should they! And I agree, I am glad we do. Sports psychology is one thing (red shirts win more - fact) but attracting new fans based purely on kit colour is a load of old nonsense! Which was why I waged in against George. He was making a nonsense point that was easy to dismiss (not counter, dismiss) by mentioning just one team. Can we put this to bed now; or else we might wind up wearing orange and purple kits for all our US televised games n stuff!? Aha. still sent from my effing nexus 4, but I have found the setting now dammit.

Actually, 1 in 10 is about 30m people. That's far too high surely? That would make soccer more popular in the USA than football is in the UK? Whilst pondering this, I did a Google. This is a great little article that looks at some Reuters research. Please understand I am not in disagreement with your reposte; I think this is genuinely interesting. (Although the "Americans don't like red and white stripes" 'argument' is just mental of course!) http://www.ussoccerplayers.com/2014/04/americans-care-soccer.html Aha. still sent from my effing nexus 4, but I have found the setting now dammit.

78% of statistics are made up on the spot. Or something. Apart from your predicted results of a randomised sample being, well, made up, I think you are probably right that only around 1 in 10 Americans are that aware of Soccer! So what's your point? We were talking about those 10%. (Maybe some on the fringes). How many of those 10, who follow the MLS and the national side, would have heard of Chivas AND seen the national wobbly red shirt? I'll accept your made up figures as your previous guesses seem about right to me. :-)

Oh, but if they DID nick the banner, that would be quite embarrassing, no?

I love the fact you have clearly had to look that up first, and have just skimmed the first article you found on the interwebs. No actual knowledge of your own. I remember another conversation on this here forum where you continually made me ponder; is this fella a troll or just a bit thick? Answer: just a bit thick. Not your fault George, we can't all be blessed with IQs above 70, bless you.

Complete Troll? Or just a bit daft? Chivas USA, for example, who play in red and white stripes, have next to no support? Really? Hmm. Think before you post (pontificate). Or risk being considered a troll.

Exactly! Some people get an idea into their heads and no amount of reality will persuade them otherwise.

wordle.net There are others but this is the one most of my teachers use.

Oooh. Now I know what people mean by tabloids just writing whatever the hell they want! The 'story' is supposedly about what MS has said. But not a single quote. Thank you for that example, reminded me why to steer clear of those rags. Aha. still sent from my effing nexus 4, but I have found the setting now dammit.

The missus has just gone through the gallery on the OS and absolutely LOVES the socks. I mean REALLY LOVES them. Seriously, she's having a fashion moment! Wants them for wearing with Roller Boots. So, there you go. We might be sad blokes into shirts, but the female footy fan can always take it one step further! Aha. still sent from my effing nexus 4, but I have found the setting now dammit.

Star Detective ! Aha. still sent from my effing nexus 4, but I have found the setting now dammit.

Happy with the Kit. Sad the kit thread is nearly over. Diagonal Shadow Stripes on the Red Stripes next to White Stripes on a predominantly red kit. Horizontal Striped socks. It is Stripes Stripes Stripes all the way now innit?! Nothing wrong with that Kit at all. I agree with The9 that some attempt at a logo on the right breast (saints apparel S) would have 'balanced' it better (badge in centre looks odd on anything but very broad stripes). Honestly, these close up pics suggest a good quality garment. Hurrah!

Ooooh. Can I have a guess? 'Sublimated Hoops' !?!?! But with white not blue. Like this: Which also solves the problem of who to model it if there's no players left. Although that's a bit too dip dye and ombre. £uck it. I will find one. Graduated stripes. Very late nineties.

Swiss National colours innit? I understood at the time and from what little I could find out about the man that ML did indeed favour a plain red shirt. (I realise your point was the other way, that ML signed off the stripes, just wondering if it might be that NC was, rather zealously, interpreting the wishes of his late friend and (our) benefactor?)

Nonsense chap. Pooch did not leave because the new project is a pale shadow of anything. There was no 'new project' when pooch left. Just a very tidy financial offer from a 'bigger' club. The players that have left, or may leave, are doing so to further their own careers (and why not). The five year plan ended - successfully! Unless you are seriously suggesting the new plan should consist of something akin to 'an assault by Southampton on the top four places and a EPL title and a CL semifinal place in five years' OF COURSE it cannot compare to 'rising three divisions and securing top half safety and (key point) financial independence under new FIFA guidelines'. The fact we have achieved that is amazing. Time for you, and others, to take a bit of a reality check sir! Bless you if you think that's how footballers think; like some band of merry brothers committed to each other and to the 'ideals' of other men! It's very sweet you think that way and I kinda wish it were true; what a better world this would be!

'Players are human, they make mistakes' - Blatter, yesterday. 'People make mistakes, it doesn't make them idiots, it makes them human (fallible)' - sadoldgit, today. Aha. still sent from my effing nexus 4, but I have found the setting now dammit.