tisspahars

Prices still settling down post Everton but looks like it will be around 7/4. So even now rated a fair bit more likely to stay up than not, which will utterly blow a fair few minds on here I would imagine.

No change at 9/4 post Man City - the vastly improved performance presumably balancing out the lack of points and victories for some of our rivals.

HT prices on Betfair.........4/9 Man City 10/3 Draw 7/1 Saints.

To follow up a point from the pre-match thread, City were 1/4 on the off at Betfair - wowsers....

Might take you a while, but absolutely - already been that much matched at around that price.

Although of course a professional would know they could have 1/8 on Betfair.......

No, we shouldn't. Betting exchange markets are incredibly accurate - check out some stats on the exchange SP's of horses v results as evidence. If the market has settled on 9/4 being the current price then you can rest assured that is fairly close to the likelihood. It may not fit in with the "We are so going down" narrative following Friday's humiliation, but there you are. We are in trouble, certainly, but the "It's over, nothing can save us" brigade are as wrong now as they were when they wrote it on the 2017 and 2018 versions of this thread.

Unsurprisingly considerably shorter to go down after last night's extraordinary events - dumbfoundingly remarkable to some of you I imagine, we are still considered hugely more likely to stay up than go down. 9/4 to be relegated.

Still around 4/1 - 9/2 following the point at Wolves.

Prices still settling after the Chelsea debacle but looks like we'll be around 9/2 which, given some of the comments on here some will find unfathomably big.

Despite losing at Spurs we are a bigger price than we were after Bournemouth - 11/2 currently.

Maybe have another read of what I've actually said, maybe another think about it too.

Ok, so you only look like scoring if the keeper makes great saves - got you.....

"Without us ever looking like scoring" - Indeed. Apart from the time we did score of course. And the last ditch block to deny Redmond's shot that was going in. And JWP's scuffed attempt from Ings's pull back when a half decent connection would have been a goal. And the volley from Cedric's cross he put just over that he should have scored from. And the 22 other attempts we had on goal, several of which their keeper made good stops from. But yeah, apart from that, never ever looked like scoring....

All the way back in to 5/1 post Bournemouth - a definite over-reaction I'd say although with the upcoming fixtures it could go shorter still before ultimately proving to be nonsense.

I just clicked on the Betfair market for the game for the first time and was amazed to see we are Evens. I thought we would be considerably shorter than that I must say.

And now out to 8/1 after the win at Sheff Utd.

Yes, I understand that you could make an argument that we have MORE to lose than them, my point is that them having NOTHING to lose is nonsense.

And now out to 6/1 after the Man U game.

Back out to 5/1 on the back of the win at Brighton.

Horse racing.

Yes.

No offence, but as somebody who gambles for a living I am not going to trade figures with a trolling fantasist, but suffice to say it would hurt.

In to 4/1 on the back of the Liverpool defeat - so I've layed some more....