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No-ones having a go at the kids, in the main they are doing bloody well. What we need is someone that can coach them properly, instill a will to win, make them a bit more hard-nosed and also to understand that you don't survive in the CCC playing pretty football. We are being run on a shoe string, we do have talented kids, but we also have a management that is, at best, naive. Thats the nub of the matter, not the players, and of course who put this bloody experiment in place, and who is the nast piece of work who supported this bloke to get him back into power. Wake up, see what is happening, just because we don't have much money doesn't mean we have to make do with nondescript managers, there are good young ENGLISH managers out there who would have this team of GOOD YOUNG (mainly) ENGLISH players doing better than they are. Why does Lowe big-up the Englishness of our team, but insists on employing a second-rate European coach. Simple, because he is a fool.

Ah, ok, so now blaming the supporters for not turning up. You sound like Lowe, blame everyone you can other than the ones that matter. Supporters don't turn up at home because we are bereft of ideas how to win AT HOME, yet go in huge numbers to away games (which of course gives no benefit to the Club except in vocal backing). A chairman with vision, instead of the clueless prat we are currently stuck with, would recognise that it is worth taking a bit more of a hit on the wages by having 1 decent striker like John playing and possibly winning more games, and having a few less duds on the books such as Pulis and some of the loanees such as Peckhart. That way the crowds would increase and go at least some way to pay for the striker that we need. The longer we persist with McG who is a good prospect but will not deliver sufficient goals over a season yet to sustain us the sooner we will find ourselves below the dotted line. Still I live in hope, maybe even expectation, that we will get something from the Palace game on Monday.

Don't be so damn patronising you ****. Continue to hold on to the fact that 3 games ago we had a single good performance AWAY FROM HOME. If you care to read my post you will see that I am referring to our home record, where we cannot win against apparently appalling opposition. Is it beyond your simple wit to see we have won 1 home gaime in 11 so far, and our afwfully nice but inexperienced manager has no idea how to resolve that issue? It is you who needs to grow up, and see the **** position we are in and stop believing the spin that we are only in this position because of the young, inexperienced players and the shoestring budget. FFS we are in this position because we have a hopelessly inexperienced manager trying to manage a team of inexperienced youngsters on a shoestring budget. We have the wherewithall to put at least one of those constituent parts right, but because we have an idiot in charge of the club who cannot accept that he makes mistakes we continue down this path that will lead us to administration and/or relegation.

Worst EVER start to a season at home, repeat worst EVER in over 80 seasons. OK, thats 4 games unbeaten, 6 pts from 12, but how can we hope to survive, at least financially, if we cannot pick up wins at home against what sounded like an appalling Sheff Wed team with one of the worst away records in the League. It really is time that Lowe realised that Jan Nice but Dim Poortvliet is out of his depth, and either needs some serious help, or needs to be replaced. Luckily there are some other poor teams around us at the moment that mean we are keeping our heads above the dotted line.

Ivan Golac, no contest :cool:

His references on the radio the other night and in the Annual Report are to "the previous board". The previous board was chaired by Crouch. Quite simple. If he was to say the board previous to the previous board, then he would be referring to Wilde and/or his appointees where the blame should squarely lie, but of course that would upset his current mate Mikey the Quisling

I reckon 3-2 today, feeling positive for a change that we could get a result. Mind you, if we don't then we are in serious trouble COYR

Definitely nothing in the notes about the intent. As you say if this is simply renewing an earlier resolution that has expired then there is probably nothing in it. I just wonder why they feel the need to have these powers in place, there must be some reason, otherwise why bother?

Cheers UP, while I do have some knowledge of these financial issues, these 2 resolutions were just mind numbingly financial geek speak. The second resolution does not include anything about them not intending to invoke this. Have just realised that there are another 2 paras on the reverse page (8.1 & 8.2) might have helped if I'd read them as well, although 8.1 at least is just more of the same jargon. 8.2 does refer to an amount of £70,227 as being the amount (of shares) they can issue. By the way the short titles for these 2 resolutions on the Form of Proxy are: 7. Authority to allot unissued shares 8. Disapplication of statutory pre-emption rights

There is one thing worse than having Lowe spouting forth with his me me me attitude, and that is having Wilde do it instead. we have a puppet for a FC Chairman, and it can't be long before even the puppet realises that he is being attacked by Lowe in his statements and made to look even more stupid than he actually is (if thats possible). Please don't encourage the Quisling to poke his head above the parapet to make more embarrassing statements. I can put up with Lowe, because we know his style and can ignore it, but Wilde just makes my blood boil these days.

Received my invitation to the AGM and voting papers this morning. There are the expected resolutions to receive the financial statements & to re-elect all of the Board Members (Cowen, Lowe, Wilde and Jones), but there are 2 resolutions under Special Business. I've read these resolutions through and can confidently state that they are complete financial gobbledegook to me. Can anyone else explain what they mean, so that I can make an informed decision how to vote (I already know exactly how to vote for the other resolutions). I won't enter the complete resolutions because they are quite lengthy, but to summarise: 7 Directors generally & unconditionally authorised of the purpose of Sect 80 of Companies Act 1985 to exercise powers to allot relevant securities up to aggregate nominal value of £468,181 blah blah blah 8 Pursuantto the authority in 7 above Directors empowered pursuant to Sect 95 of the Act until 1 Dec 2013 allot equity securities for cash blah blah blah gobbledegook blah.

... and then to perpetuate the "boredom" by starting yet another thread. If you don't like the threads about Lowe don't read them, and especially don't start them.

Only 10 pages There have been hundreds of threads about Lowe, and dozens about the Quisling. In the(un)popularity stakes, Lowe and Wilde outstrip Crouch by miles. I was also against Crouch, primarily for the way he used to shoot from the hip, but he has proved to be by far the most astute chairman we have had in the last few years, recognising that he does not have the acumen to run the club alone, but working with someone with the skills of Lee Hoos in the background. I still feel that if these two could have harnessed the abilities of Cowen as well we would have had a good board in charge. Many people did not (do not) like Crouch, but with the exception of his dallying in appointing a proper successor to the lame Scot Burley, most recognise that he did not do a lot wrong in his short tenure and acted with a damn sight more dignity than Lowe or Wilde could ever muster. At the end of the day he is the only one who truly supports this Club, and puts his money where his mouth is by continuing to sponsor it despite having to hand the money over to Lowe and Co.

or perhaps he realises that Manure will not play most of their stars, and hence we will be playing their reserves, which at least will make things a bit more even.

TYpical Lowe, blame everyone else but don't accept any responsibility. And how can he continue to work with the Quisling, when he had as much responsibility, if not more, than Lowe? It beggars belief that Lowe continues to blame Crouch, when the real blame lies with his partner in crime Wilde, and also that people continue to believe that these two, who between them are responsible for all the financial woe will somehow mircaulously get us out of the mess. Wilde out, and take Lowe with you please, two failed businessmen at the helm is too much to bear.

Why? We are playing Manure. Still I suppose if you consider London they are nothern cun.ts. Some of us consider Southampton as northerners

Where do you get a coat with sticky out ears? Most coats I buy usually come with buttons (or a zip) and a collar.

ART, are you sure he is still out injured? He certainly is not listed as injured on Watford's site, which provides a lot of detail about suspensions and injuries (take note saints OS).

Below are the players from the current squad that I think would have got into WGS squad (note squad, not necessarily first team): .

Spot on Art. Like you I have never been Crouch's greatest supporter, and he come out with a restrained response to some absolutely appalling accusations from Lowe and Wilde in the plc annual statement. He may be naive in some ways, that was always my fear about him, hence why he had others around who were more astute at running the plc (I still regret the departure of Lee Hoos who was the one man that Wilde brought in who actually had some skill that we could do with now). But the bottom line is that Crouch will not allow the presence of Lowe and Wilde to stop him supporting the club, both in person and, unlike Lowe, financially through sponsorship from his own business. He is willing to forsake some of his money (and indeed already has) while Nero continues to fiddle trying to save a few of his precious pounds rather than find a way of making the club successful. I fully epect Crouch to say nothing further, but his response was reasonable and measured. And in the end, he is urging supporters to get behind the team, which is what everyone wants.

Doubt it will be a full house (based on past experience), even if they re-open the corners as a one-off. Nothing mentioned yet to give anyone a hint that they might do this, Lowe probably only sees it as an increased cost. No way we can pull in 500k, let alone 1m by the way.

Good to see the dear old US of A keeping up with the latest news. Is Texas still figuring in the international news section of CBS?

Lol, I can just picture the scene now. We're 1-0 up with 5 minutes to go. Lowe makes his way down from the royal box and on to the touchline, out into the technical box and gesticulates madly to our players encouraging them to go for goal at our own end:) Sounds daft, so I wouldn't put it past him

Nope, you are ignoring completely the extra revenue from the sale of merchandies, burgers, beer and programmes. Clearly there are also extra costs involved, but astute business people would be able to turnover a substantially bigger profit from this source than from a game with only 15000 customers. Of course, thats the rub, although some people like to imagine that Lowe is an astute businessman, the truth is that he is not and cannot see the gift horse's mouth and instead refers to it as a drop in the ocean. You see he is a typical modern day negative business man who believes the only way to make more money is to reduce costs (reduce costs = reduce jobs), whereas enlightened business people realise there is another way, and that is by increasing revenue whenever there is an opportunity. This is why some clubs in lower leagues are able to make a profit, while we continue to make bigger and bigger losses and lose more and more customers (sorry spectators). The reality of course is that this one game is not going to be a serious windfall, but there is potential to make a decent profit from a piece of good fortune. Imagine how much we would have made if we had been drawn away to Histon. The other good news is that the game is on Sultana, so no drop in revenue due to people watching the game on the telly instead of live