VectisSaint

Just shows what an excellent assistant Glyn Snodin was

Does the Saints Truss still exist? Or is NI now the Saints Truss? Sadly an organisation that should have been successful has been hijacked by the usual crew and has therefore become a meaningless sideshow.

As a supporter it is far better to accept the inevitable. The inevitable will happen unless something changes (something being manager and chairman). If that happens then you can hope, if not then there is no hope. It won't make it any easier when it happens but it will stop a lot of fretting between now and May. If by some miracle JP suddenly learns about tactics and where to play players and we win some home games then nothing lost.

No, they have been presented with a picture of Rupert Lowe to inspire them and ensure they never go down the same path as us. I hear they have installed it in their outside loo.

Excellent. If the Echo have been upset more chance of them turning against Lowe more than they have so far. I expect the jobsworth steward will be looking for a new job soon (don't wish that on anyone) once Lowe finds out that he has upset the Echo.

This made me chuckle, twice (1) That people still think this is a free country. The UK has never been a free country, that is a myth. (2) That people are surprised that anyone can monitor this message board. We are all monitoring this message board, thats how message boards work. I'm sure several people at SFC and the Hampshire Constabulary take a look at this site every day.

Any type of boycott will only work if the boycotters still turn up and stay OUTSIDE of the ground. Otherwise no-one knows you're boycotting.

Don't think we really should be judging any of the players to be honest. When we have such a clueless nice but dim head coach, completely out of his depth, players will not be playing to their true potential. Thats why Spiderman is not looking as good as he did. JP has completely lost his way(if he ever had one), has lost the confidence of the players and the downward spiral will continue. They don't know what to do, have no proper leadership that young players need (especially when Perry gets subbed). I still believe that with a proper motivated English manager and one, maybe two experienced loanees that this squad could be mid-table, then you would see some of these players playing to their full potential.

Oh God, the "we are so bad no-one would want to manage us brigade" are out in full force again. Clearly there are some managers with enough sense to know that working with Lowe would not be a very good idea, that will rule out Dowie, about the only really intelligent manager around. Then we have lots of other managers who realise that there is a job going and will bite Rupert's hand off to work at Saints. We are still seen as a good club (ok we know different), but managers know that jobs only last 1-2 years usually, they are usually not very bright (Dowie excepted) and will be willing to give it a go. They have nothing to lose, we are almost certainties for relegation, if they pull off an escape they will be lauded as saviours, if we go down as expected then people will blame Lowe and JP. Come on guys, be a bit more realistic, if JP goes today (please) then there will be a dozen or more hungry managers looking for a job, all of whom could do better than the totally inept, nice but dim Jan.

You beat me to it

Anyone listening to the 3rd Half. Did I hear right that Dave was thrown out of (asked to leave) the Mick Channon suite, even though many of the people there were his guests. He is absolutely fuming about it, quite rightly. This Club under Lowe really is sinking to new depths if this is true. I am embarrassed to be associated with this Club under its current regime, a legend like David Armstrong thrown out of the corporate areas. FFS. :mad:

Football Managers are not necessarily too bright (bless them, at least in most cases), they will still jump at the chance, believe me. The only one with intelligence who probably would say no, is Iain Dowie.

People have to get out of this mindset. If JP went now (as he surely must), and Lowe advertised for a manager, there would be a dozen or more good applicants, guaranteed. Whether any of them could work with Lowe is a different matter, but football managers all believe they can do the trick and turn a team's fortunes around. The problem is not alternatives, the problem is the arrogant, tosser who is chairman of this club and who will destroy it (or at least get it relegated to Div 3).

Its difficult to imagine even Lowe could find anyone worse than JP, unless he took over himself. OK, see what you mean.

Another deluded lister. How did Crouch increase our debt between Dec 2008 and May 2009? You are confusing Crouch with Mike Wilde and his gang. They are the ones who increased our debt, not Crouch. Crouch put several measures in place to do just the opposite, including loaning out Rasiak and Skacel, putting in place the plans to close the corners, and instigating the transport changes. Unfortunately LC as Chairman running the Club is not really an option, he didn't do it before because he knows his limitations, he had the help of Lee Hoos, the only one of Wilde's bunch who had any skill as far as I can tell (after all he is now gainfully employed in a similar position at Leicester. Leon needs a man who can run a football club and sadly the person who we had for that role was forced to leave.

Equally, if 4 of our 5 opponents in our away wins this season had scored 1 more goal we would be bottom of the table with just 2 wins all season.

Hopefully he won't play this weekend then

One But now he's probably suspended by the club because of his comments, bit like him being "injured" for the game before his suspension.

They'll have to reduce the prices in Division 3 anyway won't they?

We've already signed Kack haven't we?

I bet you won't do this again will you Some people never satisfied. Can we have a poll for the C team? How many subs will there be, I think I would like Keegan to come off the bench for the A team, should I vote for him in the B team, or will that mean we will be stuck with Brett Ormerod instead :cool:

Midfield would get completely overrun. Better option would be to have Oakley and Surman. Up front Beattie and Jones are too similar in my opinion.

One word, money Most players would rather earn a good wedge playing reserves or not playing for a big club, rather than be paid peanuts at a lower league club.

So you don't think the difference between our home form and our away form has anything to do with tactics then? Nothing to do with playing one up front against teams that come content to get a draw by playing 5 across the middle to stifle what creativity we may have. Why would it make any difference how full the stadium is, have you seen some of the attendances when we played away? Half empty stadiums then as well. Did we do well against Forset or Manure? This myth that it is lack of bums on seats that affects our players is another one that has to be dispelled. Most youth/reserve team players who are now in the 1st team would be more used to playing in front of one man and his dog, so maybe the problem is that there are too many people attending SMS, so a boycott might actually help. By the way, haven't looked at this thread for a while, I support the idea of a boycott, but a boycott on its own is pointless, it only works if those actively boycotting still go to the stadium and protest OUTSIDE. If not there is no boycott.

At least all these other teams recognise they have a problem and make an attempt to do something about it. But of course Lowe knows best, and like Donny he will preumably stick with his manager until we are in the third division and administration. It is quite shocking that most people would take almost any one of the managers (except Roeder) recently sacked at the other CCC clubs rather than our semi-professional 4th rate nice but dim coach. I just pray that even Lowe will see the light before it is too late, at least there are a few out of work qualified, experienced British managers out there looking for a job.