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Rupert Lowe I5 SpeciaL :vom:

Bad call, they probably should do just the opposite. Alpine especially has been proved right time and time again. Its just that you don't like the way he says it. I have disagreed with Alpine many times but he usually hasn't been far wide of the mark in the final analysis.

Oh yeah, Tisdale leaves Exeter after yet another promotion and moves to Saints in the same division on a downward spiral. Tis may be ex-Saints but he isn't stupid. Would be good for us, but it ain't gonna happen while Exeter are doing well.

1979-80 Graham was a regular in Saints' midfield, and in the 80-81 season he was a virtual ever-present making 39 appearances. 173 appearances, 33 goals in 2 spells, one of our most influential midfielders (and that is saying something). Should have achieved more but injuries blighted his career.

Perhaps they all asked for no publicity

Jammy dodger would do for me

Help

Lewis lives in switzerland. More likely JB, DC and JB's new mate Mr Branson Hoddle is based in Spain these days.

********, Wilde is just as much part of the problem as Lowe. Lowe may have started the problem due to his overseeing our relegation but Wilde ****ed up twice, first on his own, then by compounding the issue and facilitating the return of Lowe.

Over-rated? By who? Seriously under-rated more like. Not only has he made a success at Leicester after building an almost entirely new team with youngsters/loanees, he has done what few others have done and lasted a complete season with Mandick. That has to be an achievement in itself. Congrats also to CEO Lee Hoos who also made the move to Leicester and showed what a few suspected, that he was the only one of the Wilde bunch that actually came out of that sorry affair with some respect. Assuming he is still there of course ;-)

by people that have not seen him play

2 appearances since Christmas, has not contributed much to Leeds success this season, I guess Glyn Snodin knows from his time at Saints Pruttons limited ability. Should have been a great player but completely lost his way, and his ability went backwards. Seems to have past his very limited best of last season. I know we can't be fussy, but he really is a very average 3rd division player.

Sweet FA And that's being generous....

Feck the summer, he needs to be sacked while it is still Spring. We need him out as soon as the final whistle goes against Forest. New people in and planning for next season as soon as possible, there will be a huge amount to do building a completely new squad, because almost all of the shower of ****e that currently play in the 1st team need to go as well (James, Davis & Saeijs would be my only exceptions, plus Gillett & Holmes).

We DID great escapes, when we had players and management who were up for it. Our current shower of ****e know they won't be here next season and have already given up. Face it. WE have been relegated since before Christmas, our only hope then was getting shot of the Dutch crap, but we didn't. And of course if we weren't relegated we would get 10 points deducted. Reality is sometimes hard to swallow.

Keep the corners open next season Close the sides and ends

Accepted this a long time ago, now what we need is to get the financial situation sorted quickly, get rid of Wotte and other sundry Dutchmen, and get a new manager in with a complete close season to build a new team from scratch for League One. Clear out all the dross, keep only James and Gillett (Davis if he will stay), everyone else of the 1st team squad out

While that may be true, Jan Poortvliet and Mark Wotte wouldn't have done. I think you are being highly disingenuous, the reason they have won is because NP put together a good team, of mainly young players with a spine of experience. NP proved that he was the right man to work with the youngsters, as his CV showed. We may not have been promoted with him this season, but we sure as hell wouldn't be down and out either.

He did, after unsuccessful trials at Ipswich and Middlesbro as well, it was before 1980 so probably was Lawrie Mac, but clealry he wasn't that only one that was not impressed. Probably a good thing in the end, we had Le God, doubtful both would have been successful in the same team, like for England

So as we all know he was barking up the wrong tree. AS for dismissal, I suspect he meant dismal, if not he was taking the -iss.

Don't get me wrong I have no time for Lowe (or Wilde), but the comment about the mortgage debt is just plain wrong. In the 2 or 3 years after we moved to SMS the mortgage debt was reduced quite considerably according to the accounts at the time, Lowe did make sure that it was being paid off at least as fast if not faster than was required. Some may argue that he did this rather than invest in the team, and that argument has some validity I guess. Blame Lowe for the (many) things that we should, but don't blame him for (the few) things that he did actually do well. Meant to add the the comments about Lawrie are below the belt, and come from someone who clearly has no understanding of what he did for us and the Club. To say that winning the FA Cup was down to the players is missing the point completely. That team was assembled and fashioned by Lawrie. Of course it is a joint thing, but I don't think that team would have won the Cup if lawrie hadn't been there. Then of course promotion followed the next season with a team completely rebuilt by Lawrie, hardly any players remained from 76, then league Cup Final 2 years later.

trying to shift the blame for Lowe and Wilde's massive ****-ups onto Crouch is really quite pointless at this stage.

Maybe they'll give us a sub

Don't see the relevance to away fans. When was the last time 8000 Saints fans went to an away game? The number who go to away games and have been boycotting home games because of Lowe must number in the tens, not thousands. The crowds have been down more because of **** football/results than because of Lowe, though that clearly did have an effect.

i think he said he was looking forward to signing for Saints and linking up with George Burley again.