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Of course not. The banks may be closed in England, but they are still open in Bermuda, San Francisco and Honolulu and will be opening soon in Auckland and Sydney. You don't need a little high street branch to complete a transaction. That said, there is no need to complete until tomorrow so I don't expect it will happen tonight.

Clear that McG wanted to go, spiritual home and all that. If you recall he almost went before. So if Fry can get £1m for someone who was going anyway (£1m on the books, even if not cash in had because of embargo on transfer moneys) then that is very good business in my opinion. He could have walked in 1 week for nothing anyway, perhaps Forest are bigger mugs than I always took them for, or perhaps Forest are clear that the takeover is going to happen, why else would they have stumped up a million for nothing. In any case McG is not what we need in Division 3, and really was not that good in the CCC, so no great loss. We need fighters, and he was a pussycat.

It was definitely my understanding that no funds actually get exchanged in the present situation, the Football League (not the FA) hold on to the funds to ensure that any footballing debts are paid, including wages of players if they don't get paid. I think the Notts County thing might be a red herring, since it was only a relatively small amount we owed them and thats already been covered by the sale of Dyer. I suspect also that the £1m fee would not be paid in a single lump sum anyway. So for those of you that think this sorts out our wages, I suggest you may want to think again.

Don't agree, without administration we would have already been liquidated. Thats the point of administration. Therefore the choice was Administration or no SFC, difficult choice there, thats why Alpine and other people with sense were actually positive about administration, it was the only option that left us with a Club that would play above wessex league level. Its not that Admin was a great idea, simply that Lowe had taken us to the point where it was the only way out. Thank goodness for Administration, otherwise we would all have had nothing to do for the last 2 months excpet find another team to support.

Exclusivity period ended a week ago last Friday. Therefore Pinnacle have no say in who is or is not sold. As far as I can see only Mark Fry with the assistance of the Football Board (names escape me, but one is the Father of some east Ender bint or something) determine whether or not players can leave before their contracts expire. Contracted players contracts expire 2 weeks after their salaries are in default by the way. So to sell Surman now is decision of Fry/SFC Board, but he can walk in just over 1 week anyway for nothing. Given that Fry has no other way of paying staff or players I see this as a way to give SFC more time, but then again I was also under the impression that the FL hold on to any transfer monies and use these to settle any outstanding debts with other clubs

Ex-wife

Fortunately for SFC, the Pinnacle deal is not reliant on them having your trust. I think it is more relevant to people that matter, i.e. those involved in the deal. Given your support of Lowe and his lacky Wilde, your trust in Pinnacle is not really relevant.

Is a coco clock one that goes off when its time for bed? If so thats cocoa

Did she have a dog? I thought it was a goat. Perhaps we are going to be taken over by the Red Cross. Red Cross Southampton has a decent ring about it and it fits in quite well with our colour scheme. Could come in handy as well, we could dispense with the St Johns Amulance fellas on match days.

I think MLT has a nose for smelling a rat

But you never know, they may be on a roll...

I believe that players become free agents 2 weeks after they were not paid, not 2 days, so that would be about 9th July. I agree Wotte is probably a free agent in a couple of days though, but he probably more than anyone knows whether he has a future here or not, so will have made his own plans to stay or go, but he would probably like to be paid first before he leaves. I really am beginning to question whether the so called posts from Tony on here are genuine or not. I'm not sure what would convince me they were, but its just beginning to sound more fiction than fact now, especially his response to GM's so-called apology which is clearly now just another wind-up from the king of wind-ups. I still believe the Pinnacle deal will go through by Tuesday, and also I am 100% sure that if it doesn't we are dead in the water and SFC will no longer exist in its current form, because the Swiss bid seems even less believable than Pinnacle. Indeed we know absolutely nothing about it.

The only problem with your argument is that SLH cannot provide a CVA because they will be liquidated. This is to me the only way out of this mess, i.e. for someone to take over SLH, admit it was SLH that went into admin and then, once the CVA has been produced liquidate the SLH. I just feel at the moment that no-one is prepared to do this, and I'm not convinced that this course of action is even feasible at this stage, because it would involve purchasing the shares in SLH from their current owners. The whole deal is set up to take over SFC, not SLH.

So you are sucked in as well. The electoral register is meaningless, as you would know if you were aware of the British electoral system. The Jewish Chronicle, great, font of all knowledge. Have you actually met and discussed this with any real person that might know him? He is probably not the main man, but is involved and has I understand been involved in multi-million deals. Do you honestly believe that MLT would have got involved if the main man was a mummy's boy who had no money. That is just an insult to MLT. I am very happy to face facts, but having been presented with none, I keep an open mind and hope that this deal comes through, despite all the bad press being generated on here. Because the alternative is extinction. I don't play poker, because its a mugs game, and you sir are demonstrating that you are eminently qualified to be a competitor

Nothing to do with the rules of the FL then. 15 points for not coming out of Admin with a CVA. Since we are not in Admin we can't produce a CVA. 15 point deduction nailed on im my view (it woud be wrong but thats not the issue).

How do you sell players when they are out of contract or their contract has been defaulted by non-payment of wages. Players are free agents at the end of this month if they do not get paid. In any case, who do we have to sell? And for that matter who do we have that can sell anyone.

The answer probably is that these people know that they need supporters on their side, and these forums are the best way they have of interacting with what they believe is a reasonably sized cross section of such supporters. Unfortunately they do not realise until too late that there are a number of people on these forums who have been arguing the toss about Lowe and Wilde for so long that they have become blinded to the reality of our situation, and think this is all just a game and that they can make unfounded accusations with no recrimination. With the gutter press we have these days, these comments which the loonies think are just harmless fun, then backfire by being picked up by the press and being reported. Thats when these potential buyers get very concerned about what they are doing.

True, there is no evidence. Just like there is no evidence that Pinnacle are penniless chancers, or that there is a credible Swiss bid in the wings. But there have been plenty of hints about this from Pinnacle and Fry, making it quite clear that the 10 points is not the issue. It is however, one of the most likely scenarios, and is credible. By the way you misunderstand about the Football League. The FL are not the blazer brigade, that is the Football Association. The FL has always been a professional organisation since its founding in 1888. It has often been at odds with the FA, initially because the FA were against professionalism in football. The FL do hold a grudge against the founder members of the FA Premier League, of that I am almost certain.

But thats the point that you are missing. SLH cannot provide a CVA either, because SLH will be liquidated. This is the big issue (not the -10). Those who follow what is happening realise that the FL by their perverse ruling have dug themselves into a corner, but that will not stop them fining us with a further points deduction. They require a CVA to avoid that deduction but legally no-one can provide a CVA, SLH because they are to be liquidated, SFC because they are not in administration. Catch 22, hence Pinnacle or anyone else cannot legally meet the requirements of the FL without having further points deducted. If they did provide a CVA it would be fraudulent. If they did not liquidate SLH and did provide a CVA that would cost and confirm to the FL that SLH/SFC was inextricably linked. The only way out of this is to reach an agreement with the FL not to impose the further penalty and that to my mind is what is holding up the deal.

Unless of course the person/company is not potless, but has been made out to be by members of the press or others posting on message boards without any "proof" other than a fruitless search in google. Seems like MLT still believes the deal will complete. That will certainly make a few people look like chumps.

Wonder where the Echo got its information. Most of the **** being written about this guy was seen on here before it made it to the Echo, and has been repeated by several on here despite them having no grounds for the information that they were writing. Hope SWF don't get sucked in because of some posters.

No, Dyer has gone to Swansea

At this point in time we are not even in League One, or even League Two. We do not have an entry in any League for next season.

But clearly that is not the point. We know we are -10 everyone knows that, always have. The sticking point is not the -10, it is the lack of right to appeal and the imposition of a further penalty when we cannot provide a CVA because we cannot come out of admin as we are not in it. The FL will not issue any statement, they will have provided the information to the parties involved confidentially as any proper business people would do. The sooner people understand the FL owes nothing to supporters the sooner people will be clearer what is going on. The FL also owes nothing to Southampton, indeed they will probably lose no sleep whatsoever in seeing one of the founder members of the FA premier League going under. We are one of 22 clubs who brought the FL to their knees in 1991, there is no love lost between those 22 clubs and the FL. Leeds have already found this to their cost.

And you wonder why people walk away. The Echo gets most of its trash from here, and people like you who know nothing about the guy posting crap like this. Beggars belief that people can be so stupid. The only show in town and ****s want to make the guy look stupid. Of course he will want to help us when he finds out stuff like this is being written. Its not about being thick-skinned, its about people having some respect. There is no other viable option, we will be dead within a wekk unless Pinnacle do the business. The Swiss bid if it exists will go the same way once someone finds out one little bit of information about it, such as the main man lives in a semi in geneva with his Mum. ****** to all of you guys who are pushing this Club closer and closer to the brink of extinction.