VectisSaint

Nothing wrong with the defence? Apart from the way they played of course.

Only needs 1 more yellow and he'll lose his place anyway, hopefully. Two things certain in life, death and Downes getting a yellow.

Downes yes, Charles no, thought he was probably our MOTM, though that's not saying a great deal. The problem we have at the moment is as Still said in his Sky interview (I watched on ITV, but caught the end of Sky coverage), in the first half our players were still playing and thinking like they did last season, so obviously calling out THB, Stephens and Downes, possibly Manning. Their first thought was to play it back or sideways, even when there are clear forward balls on. Unfortunately with our big turnover of players we did not freshen up the back/centre to any extent. He obviously gave them a bit of a bollocking at half time and it showed, completely different 2nd half, of course then showed up our lack of penetration. Needs to get those 4 sorted out and looking more positive (even Baz was knocking balls forward today to an extent). THB and Downes are the worst culprits, Stephens has always tried to play forward more, sometimes calamitously. Fairly sure if Still sorts that out we will be much.more effective. Anyway today was extremely depressing, but glad the derby is out of the way now and we can get back to playing football.

New players now have shirt numbers, Aribo (7) and Edozie (23) have kept theirs, so presumably are staying. Jelert 38 Scienza 13 Jander 20 Fellows 18

I remember getting around 28-30k at The Dell regularly. The 15k capacity only came about because of the requirement for all seater stadia. We used to attract as many supporters as we do now.

The current Basic Rate of 20% is the lowest it has been since the War. It was lowered to 20% under the Labour Government of Gordon Brown, and has remained at that level ever since.

Everton have not gone down this route, they now play at some old ground called Goodison Park, I gather the dugouts are to be admired.

I think you are misrepresenting these ex-players. Yes they were quite wealthy in their playing days, but I don't think there is any suggestion that they set out to avoid paying tax. Like most people with capital to spare and the thought of a long retirement ahead they looked to secure their futures, and the way to do this is to invest. Nothing wrong with that, at the time investing in property and in these cases film-making were seen as good ways to grow your investment over the medium and long-term. The problem is that they were mostly together at the same club(s) and sought advice initially from someone they trusted and looked up to (namely their football manager) who it seems was in cahoots with some "shady" business people (financial advisors) who it appears fraudulently invested their money in some extremely dodgy schemes whuich ultimately cost the players rather large fortunes. Not saying the players were all entirely innocent and could perhaps have done more to protect themselves but it is very easy to go along with things that all your mates are doing and that is being promoted by the person you probably trust most professionally, namely your manager, especially when that manager is someone of the stature of Howard Wilkinson.

Nice first goal for Norn Iron tonight.

Perhaps Aribo still being here has meant the new players have not yet been officially given squad numbers.

Bear in mind that most of this happened 20-30 years ago, to players who were wealthy, yes, but not the super-wealthy players of today. They were the victims of fraud. The players were not on the face of it doing anything wrong, but they were badly advised, mostly by the people who were setting up the shady schemes. One of the problems is that they relied on the judgement of their football managers. Howard Wilkinson in particular does not come out of it very well. It is quite sad to see some of these guys really now on their uppers when they should have been made for life. I suppose it hits home hardest knowing one of them is one of our former favourites. There are clearly several/many other players involved who presumably do not want to be publicly recognised.

Definition "An estuary is a partly enclosed coastal body of water where river water mixes with seawater." [Britannica.com] If it's a coastal body of water then by definition it must be "part of the coast". But I tend to agree with you that Southampton is not on what most reasonable people would consider "the coast". If Southampton is not on the coast then there is an argument that neither is Skatesville (Portsmouth Harbour), unless you count Southsea.

Used to be a real on in goal for Chelsea (Bonetti).

or Fraser Forster. Surely we should be all over him.

Airport watch?