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I know but thanks anyway.

Yeah, unless there's stuff we don't know about then there won't be a decision to be made anyway.

Presumably you would put in place mechanisms to monitor him and ensure compliance though? All I'm explaining is that there's a line of thought that sacking Tonda could be at the expense of promotion next season. Personally I think he'll get banned anyway. I think Dragan would look at things and what is in the best interest of the club but it's a complex situation with many moving parts - fan reaction, player reaction, how much impact a change of manager has on players joining or leaving, how much time we have to prepare for next season. Anyway, had enough of this, I'm not trying to support one argument or the other, merely helping you understand why people would think this way with regard to Tonda.

None of that matters if you believe that Tonda represents the best chance of promotion next season.

On a human level and not connected with how much/little Tonda knew, how culpable he is, whether he should be sacked or not but life must be pretty fucking shit for him right now. I know it's the job they sign up for and he may have brought all this on himself but I really wouldn't envy anyone going through this kind of thing.

I think it's something that can be considered and I don't think it's that outlandish a possibility to consider (if he doesn't get banned). I certainly don't think people who do go down that route aren't living in the real world, that just smacks of being unable to understand an argument you don't agree with.

I think he'll almost certainly get banned making it moot but the reasoning behind the logic is that he might represent to people the best chance of getting up next season. Always debateable but that's why people are considering it. Hope that helps.

This is exactly the kind of thing that got us into trouble in the first place.

In terms of new manager (I'm assuming Tonda goes) then a lot will depend on Spors and what happens to him. Even if Spors didn't know what was going on, there's an argument that he probably should have done. If Spors goes then do we then bring in a new DoF (or whatever the job title is) and then appoint a manager? You don't really want to rush either of those decisions and that's without all the complications of summer transfer dealings. Not sure about anyone else but I'd rather not have Rasmus taking a more hands on approach. This is the problem with the sack pretty much everyone argument. We're going to be way behind everyone else in a season where we otherwise would have had a bit of an advantage over the relegated sides and all the churn they nearly always get.

Ask Middlesbrough and done whatever Steve Gibson decided?

How do you know this?

Presume you're talking about Peretz but equally could apply to Larin. Neither have wasted a year of their career (for one both only came in January) but they joined on loan to revive their careers when they weren't getting any game time. Both have undoubtedly done that so the loan moves have been unqualified successes. Peretz will almost certainly have better options and probably Larin too. If they don't rejoin then it won't be because of spying.

I'd expect Charles, Jander, Scienza, THB to definitely go. Peretz I doubt we can get, would be nice to think we could get Larin as he seems to like it here and given his recent record before he came here then he might be tempted if he doesn't get a better option. Reckon we've got a decent chance of keeping Fellows and Azaz. We'll probably have a half decent squad capable of challenging for play offs again. Tonda will obviously be gone so if we keep Spors that probably makes things a little smoother. If both go then that's going to be quite tough for any new management team to come in and hit the ground running. Thank god for the return of Damion Downs. That's one bright spot at least.

Is there actually any allegations of other clubs spying? From what I can tell it's a bit of hearsay and conjecture. My guess is nothing comes out to support it.

You forgot Damion Downs.