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Musk isn't the living embodiment of the internet or social media though. Of course he has a voice, and of course social media has an impact but (and I want to be quite specific here) he is not "in some ways the most powerful and influential person in all of human history". He's not even the best exponent of social media to leverage attention into power (Trump). There's been many many people in human history that have been powerful and influential and they've all done something - what has Musk actually done (apart from making a shit ton of money)? The starlink thing is a good exercise in his execution of power and that's a good example to use but there's not much else besides creating some headlines that get people worked up. So, yeah, you can make an argument that the internet is a powerful tool but don't conflate Musk with the internet.

Straw man argument. The only judgement I’m making is that Musk is not, in some ways, the most powerful and influential person in human history. It’s a stupid argument, ironically ignoring virtually all of human history.

Where would you place Tom Paine in your list of power and influence in the whole of human history? When he wrote Common Sense, still the most widely read pamphlet ever, he helped galvanise a nation into revolution. And then, blow me, if that wasn’t enough he buggers off wrote The age of reason and helped out in the French Revolution. Clearly not on the same level as Musk or Rogan. Maybe fourth behind Russell Brand?

Indeed, in some ways Joe Rogan has more power and influence than anyone else in human history.

Because over the years people have said the same thing over and over about media moguls and really that's the best kind of comparison to make - with someone like Rupert Murdoch, Randolph Hearst and Lord Beaverbrook. Ultimately they had some influence and I'm not denying that but it was limited in the same way that Musk's is. Talk about recency bias.

So you didn't say, "In some ways musk has more power and influence than anyone in human history"? That's an incredible claim, the whole of human history? Seriously? Hitler, Stalin, FDR, Reagan, Lenin, Caesar, Churchill, Martin Luther King, Gandhi, Peter the Great, Napoleon. That's just off the top of my head.

Which part did you want to retract then?

Again, just because his views are heard really doesn't equate to power and lets's not forget that the original claim was "He has more power and influence than anyone in human history" which is clearly laughable.

Bizarre you would think that holding opinions and being able to voice them makes much of a difference. Social media may have a big influence on people who use social media and think it's a big deal but, honestly, it's really not. Xi Jinping has power, Putin has power, Trump has power. Musk doesn't have anywhere near the same power and his ability to affect things is pretty small.

You're confusing his ability to make a few short-lived headlines with actual power, of which, he has very little.

No he doesn't.

TBH I haven’t been looking at other clubs but would have expected a few rumours if we were targeting a position and from what I can tell there doesn’t seem to be many. Personally think it’s probably best to have a quiet one anyway. If we have an opportunity to shift some on then great but incoming should wait till the summer

Given the lack of any rumours it’s probably safe to say this window will be relatively quiet.

I think Fernandes is decent, actually I think he’s really good. He was about 15m wasn’t he? Ramsdale is good too. Not too much after that though…..

Nice one, cheers for that. Can I order three years of championship fun and promotion at the end of the third? I'd take a miserable premier league season every four years but wouldn't want to do too much more than that.