Charlie Wayman

An excellent post that encapsulates precisely what many must be thinking. Relegation next season seems almost inevitable on our current pathway.

For Heaven's sake get rid of this man!

Having watched the Man C v Chelsea match just before ours, the gulf in class was a stark reminder of just how poor we have become. Yet again we ran around frantically like decapitated chickens in a hurry to go nowhere. Our front line with the embarrassing exception of Tella would struggle to create anything worthwhile in the Championship let alone in this league. True to form they created precisely the square root of BA last night. They were so poor that our defence and midfield had to resort to passing sideways and backwards just to keep the ball for a while to relieve the pressure on themselves. They knew full well that any ball into a forward would be lost and the Scousers would be back on them again immediately. The less said about Theo's performance the better. Has he changed his mind about ending his career here? More showings like this and management will be coming to the same conclusion. As for Adams & Redmond... (expletives deleted). So if we end up at 17th, where does that leave us next season? The odd newcomer this summer is hardly going to produce the root and branch overhaul of this squad that is so sorely needed. The lack of success of any of our teams A, B or U18 surely must be creating such a toxically negative culture around Staplewood that one is beginning to wonder if we will ever win another match certainly under this set-up. How many players will just want out to get away from it all this summer? Those that can probably will. It is a mystery to me that a manager with such little success on the field still enjoys almost deity status off it. Time to clip his wings, he has too much power in the club.

If Ryan Bertrand is allowed to slip away it will be one of the worst decisions this club has ever made in the transfer market. Much emphasis is put on establishing a club 'culture' and Ryan epitomises all that is good about players that fit our ideas of 'culture'. Like JWP and I suspect Stuart Armstrong intelligence, club loyalty and decency are the outstanding hallmarks of his character. His influence on the team and its culture surely go way beyond his performances on the pitch. For the sake of a few quid or months on his contract we will be mad to let him go. We have no adequate back-up and the cost of replacing him probably will massively outweigh any savings made by being hard-nosed in negotiations. It is well known that he has ambitions beyond playing so surely we can do deal on the basis of him having a player / coach role here as his playing days wind down. Heaven knows some of the coaches that we employ currently as 'coaches' have far less to offer than a player as experienced as Bertie as results would tend to confirm. If he goes I will be out in Britannia Road with my "Sack the Board!" placard

There are far more pressing matters to worry about this summer.

...and to be fair that is only fair. Many companies will have invested millions in the event in sponsorships and advertising and will need the Turkish & European advertising exposure to recover their money.

I suppose it is a tacit acknowledgement that he regards them both as pretty useless. If he had a clear first choice he would use it.

Obviously Ralph has the option of fielding eleven players at Anfield but he might prefer to select only ten after last week's excellent display. Never change a "winning" team.............

100% agree with you.

If people want them that badly why don't they sell them in the club shop? They could also do a nice line in broken crossbars.😂

I understood he was here on loan only and not for sale. Liverpool's style of play differs so markedly from ours that training him to fit to our system doesn't help Liverpool or us. At times the lad looks like a fish out of water so it is unlikely he would choose to stay here even if such a conversation takes place.

Inflammatory gibberish! If you're making allegations of cheating then you had better have the evidence to back up your otherwise libellous claims. The stark reality is that refs do their best to manage games but the pace of the modern game together with ill defined rules is making their jobs nigh impossible. Of course they make mistakes as indeed all of us do in our own jobs but that doesn't mean they are biased in any way. Had you not considered that if anybody is cheating it is the players up to all sorts of tricks when they think refs are not looking. How does that make the refs job any less difficult?

Wait until next season, none of the clubs coming up look likely to stay up for long. The champs are more or less the same Norwich side that ended up bottom of the PL last season.

Don't be daft.

He was being ironic.

Well done lads!

This sad news confirms what many of us feared. Still, he is bright lad and has time to start and succeed in another career. We must wish him the very best of luck for his future.

Fair point. The question is, has he ever asked Mr Gao for funds to buy better quality players and pointed out that if we stand still or make do and mend the outcome becomes inevitable? If he walks away for a better offer this summer as rumoured it would confirm that he has had enough of the financial restraints placed on him by Mr Gao* and that he has asked for more money but been rebuked. *My way or the highway

Yes but good managers challenge owners not just whimper and cowtail. If he knew that it was impossible to run a club sustainably in the PL then he should have said so at the beginning. By not doing so he has been complicit in our decline

You don't have to look very hard to see the pattern as Wurzel pointed out in the first post of this thread. Hardly an 'agenda' Results count not excuses.

Don't be too hard on yourself, we can tolerate your ramblings.

You're easily satisfied. It's not normal at all to lose virtually every PL match since Christmas. No other club would have tolerated such mind-bogglingly poor performance form a manager. He's way past his sell-by date.

All fine and dandy but it's a tactic that has never worked for us. It's a pointless vanity project for the big man.

The English Football League contains several Welsh teams so it's not the English Football League at all; nor has the inclusion of Welsh clubs "destroyed" Welsh football at grass roots level. I am all for the inclusion of Scottish Clubs in the League structure if they qualify on merit and I am not talking about Celtic & Rangers exclusively. If anything it might enhance the prestige and recognition of Scottish football at all levels. As for Ms Sturgeon's ambition of an independent Scotland, people should not rush to judgement that this will be a slam dunk.

A tad unfair, he seemed genuinely pleased to support Saints and rarely missed a match.