Charlie Wayman

How's your short term memory?

As I have suggested before 'yo-yo' is not a plan or strategy, its what happens when you don't have a plan or strategy. If their business model really is buying players and selling them on at a profit, when was the last time that happened? Lavia, Livramento but that was a while back now so they're certainly not making much money on that model. Of the current crop, only Ramsdale, Harwood-Bellis, Walker-Peters and Dibling are remotely saleable and only Dibling is likley to return them a profit. Rather poo-poo's the idea of a business model. The reality is if we go down, those players mentioned and one or two others like Sugawara and Downes will be off anyway probably for the best offers we can get and leaving us as usual with a load of dross unlikely to be good enough to haul us back up onto the cliff top. All in all it looks like they have no plan at all, indeed they're probably making it up as they go along... As for sacking Martin, do they have the money to do it? Is that the reason he is here still? Ah! Serendipity, now that does sound like a plan!

Personally I have lost all respect for the board, small minded people of limited ambition and minimal competence. I hope they do sell up so that we can start a new chapter.

Exactly ITK = Idiots Talking Krap

That's the problem in a nutshell. He is too close to the players to manage them effectively. The 'mates' culture doesn't work because it breeds laziness and ultimately contempt.

I gave up my season ticket this season precisely because there was a moany bloke on either side of me last year. They drove me crazy week after week to the extent that I hoped they wouldn't turn up just to give my ears and brain a break! Unfortunately it wasn't the moany blokes that left. No doubt they're having a field day this season.

This was beyond frustrating, we were clearly the better side for 35mins so how on earth did we contrive to lose the match? Whatever Martin changes tactically the end result is always the same. Something is broken and he really has not got a clue as to how to fix it. Most fans have run out of patience now surely? Time for the P45 on his desk Monday morning, Announcement tomorrow?

No we're not, only in your mind.

Well done THB. Just being part of the squad working with different coaches will be hugely beneficial to him. Doubt he'll get any minutes on the pitch at this stage.

I am not a great believer in "people taking the long term appoach" especially in football where everything is transient and short term. That is akin to "kicking the can down the road" It is cited a lot on here but Ockham's Razor should always be at the forefront of one's mind when making assessments. Yo-yo is not a strategy.

It's only yet another random person's opinion, why would he take any more notice of this one than any other? He won't!

If we are to go on a run, now is a very good time to reinforce the excellent win on Saturday with another victory, unlikely as that may seem to some. I am going to stick out my neck and forecast 1-0 win to the Saints. Relegation is not a certainty by any means for either of these teams but on balance from what I have seen this season, Saints seem to have the better credentials to progress. Thankfully there have been no sightings of fat ladies so far in the Northam.

Tonight I'm just happy and relieved that we have won a match. We played with more flair and drive and it paid off. We need a youg Lallana in midfield and certainly not Captain Shoehorn. 'One swallow' of course but we can look forward to next weekend with a bit more belief. Well done lads.

He's as mad as a flippin hatter if he really believes the crap he comes out with at PCs. Delusional and insulting to his audience.

Sean Dyche's presser was infintely more astute and informative than any I have heard from Martin. The man has his feet firmly on the ground and knows how football should be played in the PL. If the Toffees ditch him then why not bring him south? Everton are doing well under him now and it's not difficult to understand why. They will be far to good for us tomorrow and we risk being tonked 0-4 . Doubt this will be the last hurrah for Martin though, what degree of humiliation will dislodge him escapes me.

Not all relationships are the same old chap.

By your measure Andrew, things can only get better so that's something to look forward to surely? Every cloud has a silver lining, storms pass, winter ends then life springs forth all over again.

Only in Groundhog Day, things improved slightly every day until pefection was achieved.

Get rid of the dog!

New Forum?

Both are very taxing.

Fair do's, creative accounting is all the rage; make it up as you go along.

Captain Jack & Wiley Willy will save the day for us. When all else fails……………..

Sadio Mane was outstanding for us and for Liverpool. His 4 minute or so hat-trick aginst Villa at St Mary's was probably the finest performance from a Saints player that we have ever had the privilege to witness.

I'm with Whitey on this one